What adds to the confusion of ND filters is the different numbering systems used by different manufacturers.
rayford2 wrote:
What adds to the confusion of ND filters is the different numbering systems used by different manufacturers.
Also note that some companies use the FILTER FACTOR as the size. (see the previous chart)
Here's a calculating chart using OPTICAL DENSITY (see the previous chart) and shutter speed for ND filters. I hope this helps someone.
Thank you all for the information, it will help me to know what I am looking for, and what filter(s) to buy...Norm
Great info, Wayne's. Thank you.
jimmya wrote:
Below are two photos I shot with my Canon t1i. For convenience both were shot with my kit lens at 18-55, also my video lens. The top photo is with only an AV filter mounted.
The second photo is with the UV plus an ND filter. I see a significant difference in the two. The top photo is hotter with whites nearly blown out in bright sun.
The second shot, as I see it, is richer with a deeper look with emphasis on the blues. To me a much nicer look with the whites cooled off a bit.
Both shots are straight out of the camera. The top one is a little wider than the one below it so discount that and check the overall look of color, sharpness and clarity.
What's your take on the difference, I'd like to know.
Thanks UHH people, I hope you have a very nice Thanksgiving.
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I do the same thing only with out a ND filter. I simply touch the +/- button on my Nikon and tone down the scene to keep the highlights from blowing out. Its like having 20 ND filters built into the camera. Now for dull scenes I have all those adjustment to brighten the scene. No filter necessary. Thats why good cameras are expensive.
Read more about ND filters. The camera doesn't do the same thing and won't get the same results. What you are doing in camera is surely needed many times to adjust the light in the photo you are taking. But again the results will NOT be the same as the results when an ND filter is needed. I will not try to fully explain but you should read in several manufactures info. about when & why using an ND filter will improve your photography. Having the best camera & lens is only good if the photographer really knows how to get a good photo. That's what makes it so interesting. It's easy to learn a lot about it on the internet, like on sites like this. I always find new things to learn about photography and all it's hardware.
After you've read & tried more, let us all know what the results were.
Wayne'spictures wrote:
Read more about ND filters. The camera doesn't do the same thing and won't get the same results. What you are doing in camera is surely needed many times to adjust the light in the photo you are taking. But again the results will NOT be the same as the results when an ND filter is needed. I will not try to fully explain but you should read in several manufactures info. about when & why using an ND filter will improve your photography. Having the best camera & lens is only good if the photographer really knows how to get a good photo. That's what makes it so interesting. It's easy to learn a lot about it on the internet, like on sites like this. I always find new things to learn about photography and all it's hardware.
After you've read & tried more, let us all know what the results were.
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If the NDs work for you then enjoy. I read the hype from the manufactures and still find no real benefit over adjusting your camera properly. I say hype because it is advertising to get you to buy their filters. Of all the pros I know and work with not a single one uses a ND filter. It was a valuable tool for film cameras but not for digital. Lowering your ISO, adjusting your camera settings or using your +/- override can give you the same results as the ND filters. Also watch what you stack on the front of auto focus lenses, they have a tendency to confuse the camera and you loose sharpness. Look that up on the internet. Dont let my point of view discourage you. Never stop learning. Don Blair and nationally know photographer and teacher embraced digital imagery in his late 60s. He was so famous that Hasselblad gave him a custom made camera in celebration of his achievements in photography. Again, never stop learning. ( see image NO filters )
I am glad to hear there are professional photographers ALSO that do not find that ND filters will improve their photographs because their cameras and lenses deem the filters unnecessary ever. My Leica camera and lenses are not today's newest technology. Cameras and lenses improve almost every day and I know I can not keep up with them. So thanks for the information.
Subject closed.
frangeo wrote:
Wayne'spictures wrote:
Read more about ND filters. The camera doesn't do the same thing and won't get the same results. What you are doing in camera is surely needed many times to adjust the light in the photo you are taking. But again the results will NOT be the same as the results when an ND filter is needed. I will not try to fully explain but you should read in several manufactures info. about when & why using an ND filter will improve your photography. Having the best camera & lens is only good if the photographer really knows how to get a good photo. That's what makes it so interesting. It's easy to learn a lot about it on the internet, like on sites like this. I always find new things to learn about photography and all it's hardware.
After you've read & tried more, let us all know what the results were.
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If the NDs work for you then enjoy. I read the hype from the manufactures and still find no real benefit over adjusting your camera properly. I say hype because it is advertising to get you to buy their filters. Of all the pros I know and work with not a single one uses a ND filter. It was a valuable tool for film cameras but not for digital. Lowering your ISO, adjusting your camera settings or using your +/- override can give you the same results as the ND filters. Also watch what you stack on the front of auto focus lenses, they have a tendency to confuse the camera and you loose sharpness. Look that up on the internet. Dont let my point of view discourage you. Never stop learning. Don Blair and nationally know photographer and teacher embraced digital imagery in his late 60s. He was so famous that Hasselblad gave him a custom made camera in celebration of his achievements in photography. Again, never stop learning. ( see image NO filters )
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The only exception I would take to the above are some specialty ND filters such as the graduated types. These have a definite purpose for digital cameras under certain circumstances.
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