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Sep 24, 2023 18:53:52   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Trump leading Biden in an ABC/Washington Post Poll by 9 points?

Not really an affirmation of Trump but a loud affirmation of just how pissassed poorly Biden has managed his administration. Just one disaster after another.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/troubles-biden-age-reelection-campaign-poll/story?id=103436611&mc_cid=f4d249874b&mc_eid=UNIQID

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Sep 24, 2023 20:02:45   #
scooter1 Loc: Yacolt, Wa.
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Trump leading Biden in an ABC/Washington Post Poll by 9 points?

Not really an affirmation of Trump but a loud affirmation of just how pissassed poorly Biden has managed his administration. Just one disaster after another.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/troubles-biden-age-reelection-campaign-poll/story?id=103436611&mc_cid=f4d249874b&mc_eid=UNIQID


Now watch Biden win with 100 million votes and the liberals will be dancing in the streets without questions on how.

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Sep 24, 2023 21:18:51   #
Wyantry Loc: SW Colorado
 
scooter1 wrote:
Now watch Biden win with 100 million votes and the liberals will be dancing in the streets without questions on how.


Talk about Projection!

But it is just a personal WISH of Scooter — NOT a fact.

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Sep 25, 2023 14:16:41   #
FrumCA
 
Wyantry wrote:
Talk about Projection!

But it is just a personal WISH of Scooter — NOT a fact.

I read a piece today that opines if RFK, Jr. ran for president as an independent he would take so many votes from biden that he would have zero percent chance of winning. This "opinion" may well turn into fact!!

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Sep 25, 2023 14:20:19   #
Wyantry Loc: SW Colorado
 
FrumCA wrote:
I read a piece today that opines if RFK, Jr. ran for president as an independent he would take so many votes from biden that he would have zero percent chance of winning. This "opinion" may well turn into fact!!



Yes. Well, it is not too late. . . . .

Now who could be found to do the same for Trump?

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Sep 25, 2023 14:49:22   #
National Park
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Trump leading Biden in an ABC/Washington Post Poll by 9 points?

Not really an affirmation of Trump but a loud affirmation of just how pissassed poorly Biden has managed his administration. Just one disaster after another.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/troubles-biden-age-reelection-campaign-poll/story?id=103436611&mc_cid=f4d249874b&mc_eid=UNIQID


Polls are meaningless at this point. Another poll shows the two of them dead even.

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Sep 25, 2023 20:36:16   #
Wyantry Loc: SW Colorado
 
National Park wrote:
Polls are meaningless at this point. Another poll shows the two of them dead even.



There are reasons polls are meaningless — at this or any other point — which are related to two major points:

1). An insufficient sample size or number (n). Most similar political polls sample approximately 1800 to 2200 individual, the predictive statistics are employed to INFER an outcome for the entire electorate population (300 000 +) with a specific degree of accuracy.
With a larger sample size, estimated outcome error decreases. However, sampling costs money; pollsters (and their clients) are not likely to expend monies in order to acquire a better set of data — accepting an error of plus-or-minus ~4 to ~7 percentage points.

And,

2). There is rarely a truly RANDOMIZED sample set. For example: A poll conducted in a predominantly Democrat-liberal run state or locality would draw upon a population that would give quite different data than any identical sampling in a Republican-conservative dominated area.

Conclusion: Polls do not indicate SQUAT if not adequately randomized and of sufficient size.

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Sep 25, 2023 20:38:40   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Wyantry wrote:
There are reasons polls are meaningless — at this or any other point — which are related to two major points:

1). An insufficient sample size or number (n). Most similar political polls sample approximately 1800 to 2200 individual, the predictive statistics are employed to INFER an outcome for the entire electorate population (300 000 +) with a specific degree of accuracy.
With a larger sample size, estimated outcome error decreases. However, sampling costs money; pollsters (and their clients) are not likely to expend monies in order to acquire a better set of data — accepting an error of plus-or-minus ~4 to ~7 percentage points.

And,

2). There is rarely a truly RANDOMIZED sample set. For example: A poll conducted in a predominantly Democrat-liberal run state or locality would draw upon a population that would give quite different data than any identical sampling in a Republican-conservative dominated area.

Conclusion: Polls do not indicate SQUAT if not adequately randomized and of sufficient size.
There are reasons polls are meaningless — at this ... (show quote)


This poll clearly is an outlier but what we should all recognize is that Joe is sinking fast and beyond that Kamala is a anchor tied to his leg, the thought of "President Harris" scares the hell out of more than 1/2 the country.

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Sep 25, 2023 20:58:04   #
National Park
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
This poll clearly is an outlier but what we should all recognize is that Joe is sinking fast and beyond that Kamala is a anchor tied to his leg, the thought of "President Harris" scares the hell out of more than 1/2 the country.


Again, polls are meaningless at this point. Much can, and will, happen between now and then. Suppose, for instance, that Trump is convicted of something. Or Biden has a stroke. Or Trump has a stroke... Or there is an international crisis that Biden resolves, or doesn't resolve. Or the economy rebounds. Or we enter a recession... If polls this far in advance of Presidential elections were accurate we would have had Presidents Kerry and Romney. How did that work out for them?

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Sep 25, 2023 22:02:07   #
rwoodvira
 
I think some people may be contrary like me and give the opposite answer when polled.

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