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Aug 18, 2023 14:43:03   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
jiminnee wrote:
You mentioned a video showing that the car lug nuts were using left hand threads. Reminds that I've seen this on a lot of videos lately that should be showing right hand threads. Curious.


A few years ago, I was watching a movie on TV, and at one point, everything was reversed. Writing was backwards, and drivers were on the right side of the car. I've seen that happen before

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Aug 18, 2023 15:27:04   #
Julian Loc: Sarasota, FL
 
jerryc41 wrote:
A few years ago, I was watching a movie on TV, and at one point, everything was reversed. Writing was backwards, and drivers were on the right side of the car. I've seen that happen before


Just like in TikTok…

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Aug 18, 2023 15:43:58   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Julian wrote:
Just like in TikTok…



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Aug 18, 2023 18:36:23   #
Grump's Photos Loc: Dunedin FL
 
jiminnee wrote:
You mentioned a video showing that the car lug nuts were using left hand threads.

Mid 60's Mopars DID have left hand threads on, I believe, the passengers side. Worked in a service station, and you had to look for the "L" stamped on the end of the lug nuts. Ah..........the memories!
Andy

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Aug 18, 2023 20:43:50   #
Lucasdv123
 
I wouldn't take that audi if they gave it to me.it looks like a royal pain in the ass to replace a tire and just imagine replacing it in a torrential rainfall, a hot day in Texas with a 120 degree heat index, or a snow storm or even on the side of a highway.i did notice reverse threads on the video.i did have a 1974 nova hatchback with a donut.it came with an air can.once I used the air can it cost me $10 if I had it replaced.this was back in 1974 and the were no small air compressors like there are today.they were only available at specialty stores but not at auto part stores.i found one a little bigger than a coke can that could deliver about 75 psi for $24.99.it lasted about 25 years.

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Aug 19, 2023 05:52:57   #
Manglesphoto Loc: 70 miles south of St.Louis
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Do any of you prefer the compact spare tire. I suppose it saves weight and money for the manufacturer, but it's almost worthless

According to a video I watched last night, only three electric cars come with spare tires. Apparently, weight and storage spare are the concerns. Audi has an unusual spare that comes with the tread collapsed onto the rim. In order to use it, you must first inflate it and wait for it to pop into shape.

The video below isn't great, but it shows you the spare and how it works.

Two things I thought were interesting. In both the videos, the guys made a big deal about the valve cap with the tool on the end to remove the Schraeder valve - like it was a new invention. I've been using those caps since I was a kid riding a bike. I also thought it was odd that the Audi requires a quirky little tool to remove the caps on the lug nuts. At the 14:30 in the video, he has the video reversed, so he's turning clockwise to loosen the lug nuts. While saying, "Lefty-loosey," he's turning to the right.

Ironically, the car still needs enough room in the trunk to store a regular-size tire. Otherwise, you'd have to put the flat tire inside the car with you. So, it's all that extra work to save a few pounds.

I'm surprised that Audi doesn't have a 12v outlet in the trunk with the spare. Having to run the wire from inside the car through an open door isn't the best arrangement. I added a 12v outlet to the trunk of my Fit. It comes in handy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEdVYcXZ6sA
Do any of you prefer the compact spare tire. I su... (show quote)


I carry a tire plug kit and a 12v compressor, if that fails I use the "Donut" or a spare .
Last week I damaged a rear wheel I still don't know how, got read to go up the road to my daughters and found the tire flat> back in the car port, jack the car up with a floor jack ,tried to air the tire up, NO joy> a string of four letter words> removed the tire and found the Aluminum wheel bent> more four letter words > loaded tire in the Explorer took to my Son In-laws , found the tire damaged also > yep you guessed it more four letter words $168 later + five days for a used wheel plus a pair of new tires back on the road. There were a few miles left on the tires but I replaced them. I have a deal with My Son-in-law I work on his vehicles and he keeps me in tires work out very well.

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Aug 19, 2023 05:56:13   #
Manglesphoto Loc: 70 miles south of St.Louis
 
dpullum wrote:
Lincoln Continental had a solution spare on the outside of the trunk.

It has been many years since I had a flat tire... self-sealing works wonders. Explained:
https://www.michelinman.com/auto/why-michelin/technological-innovations/michelin-selfseal-technology


LOL That was a fake just for looks after the 40s. And the Continental kits added more weight to the car.plus they were A PITA to work around when loading the trunk.

And self sealing tires only worked for small punctures and were damn near impossible to successfully repair
I worked in a tire shop for 9 years as a mechanic /installer

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Aug 19, 2023 06:01:51   #
Manglesphoto Loc: 70 miles south of St.Louis
 
Grump's Photos wrote:
Mid 60's Mopars DID have left hand threads on, I believe, the passengers side. Worked in a service station, and you had to look for the "L" stamped on the end of the lug nuts. Ah..........the memories!
Andy


Driver side!!!

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Aug 19, 2023 07:43:29   #
Red6
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Do any of you prefer the compact spare tire. I suppose it saves weight and money for the manufacturer, but it's almost worthless

According to a video I watched last night, only three electric cars come with spare tires. Apparently, weight and storage spare are the concerns. Audi has an unusual spare that comes with the tread collapsed onto the rim. In order to use it, you must first inflate it and wait for it to pop into shape.

The video below isn't great, but it shows you the spare and how it works.

Two things I thought were interesting. In both the videos, the guys made a big deal about the valve cap with the tool on the end to remove the Schraeder valve - like it was a new invention. I've been using those caps since I was a kid riding a bike. I also thought it was odd that the Audi requires a quirky little tool to remove the caps on the lug nuts. At the 14:30 in the video, he has the video reversed, so he's turning clockwise to loosen the lug nuts. While saying, "Lefty-loosey," he's turning to the right.

Ironically, the car still needs enough room in the trunk to store a regular-size tire. Otherwise, you'd have to put the flat tire inside the car with you. So, it's all that extra work to save a few pounds.

I'm surprised that Audi doesn't have a 12v outlet in the trunk with the spare. Having to run the wire from inside the car through an open door isn't the best arrangement. I added a 12v outlet to the trunk of my Fit. It comes in handy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEdVYcXZ6sA
Do any of you prefer the compact spare tire. I su... (show quote)


I do not have any problems with the compact spare tire. It is small and lightweight and good enough to get you to a safe place to fix or replace your regular tire when you need to. With the cost of most tires today, carrying around a perfectly good tire in your trunk for years and possibly dry rotting to boot just does not make sense.

Tires today are much better than years ago and flats are fairly rare on good highways. We travel a good bit and luckily have had only 2 flats in 20 years. One was 2 weeks ago when my wife swerved to avoid another car in her lane and curbed a front tire puncturing the sidewall. I was out of town and she called AAA and they changed it with the compact spare and she made it home.

This brings up the use of the fix-a-flat stuff and a small air compressor as a substitute for a spare. With the flat my wife had a couple of weeks ago there was a hole in the side wall you could stick your fist in. No amount of fix-a-flat would fix that!

Also concerning cars that have different size tires and wheels on the front and back. Sorry, I just would not own a car that had that. That makes tire rotations and tire purchases just too complicated and expensive. Plus you have the problem of what to do for a spare.

That reminds me of a guy I know that purchased an expensive foreign luxury car. First of all it required some special type of soft tire to get the right amount of traction. These tires only got about 25,000 miles before they needed replacement. So they not only were expensive but also needed replacement twice as often. Then there was the time he hit a railroad track too fast. The tires were the very low profile type and it pinched a tire destroying it and the wheel. It cost him nearly $1500 to replace the tire and wheel.

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Aug 19, 2023 07:55:55   #
Manglesphoto Loc: 70 miles south of St.Louis
 
Red6 wrote:
I do not have any problems with the compact spare tire. It is small and lightweight and good enough to get you to a safe place to fix or replace your regular tire when you need to. With the cost of most tires today, carrying around a perfectly good tire in your trunk for years and possibly dry rotting to boot just does not make sense.

Tires today are much better than years ago and flats are fairly rare on good highways. We travel a good bit and luckily have had only 2 flats in 20 years. One was 2 weeks ago when my wife swerved to avoid another car in her lane and curbed a front tire puncturing the sidewall. I was out of town and she called AAA and they changed it with the compact spare and she made it home.

This brings up the use of the fix-a-flat stuff and a small air compressor as a substitute for a spare. With the flat my wife had a couple of weeks ago there was a hole in the side wall you could stick your fist in. No amount of fix-a-flat would fix that!

Also concerning cars that have different size tires and wheels on the front and back. Sorry, I just would not own a car that had that. That makes tire rotations and tire purchases just too complicated and expensive. Plus you have the problem of what to do for a spare.

That reminds me of a guy I know that purchased an expensive foreign luxury car. First of all it required some special type of soft tire to get the right amount of traction. These tires only got about 25,000 miles before they needed replacement. So they not only were expensive but also needed replacement twice as often. Then there was the time he hit a railroad track too fast. The tires were the very low profile type and it pinched a tire destroying it and the wheel. It cost him nearly $1500 to replace the tire and wheel.
I do not have any problems with the compact spare ... (show quote)


I don't know what world you live in but the on"Best" roads you have as much chance of a flat as on gravel roads In my 20 years of driving wreckers I have seem quite a few tire ruined by things the you would never think of being on the roads some of which were a wrench, a pair of pliers, a piece of seashell (in the midwest) nails , screws pieces of scrap metal, chunks of fire wood, a drive shaft out of a tandem semi,(took the lower end out on a 69 Charger Semi). it goes on and on.

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Aug 19, 2023 08:07:55   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Grump's Photos wrote:
Mid 60's Mopars DID have left hand threads on, I believe, the passengers side. Worked in a service station, and you had to look for the "L" stamped on the end of the lug nuts. Ah..........the memories!
Andy


Yes, I remember that. I wonder how many studs were broken off because someone turned the nut the wrong way. I wonder how many wheels fell off because of normal threads.

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Aug 19, 2023 08:08:51   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Manglesphoto wrote:
I don't know what world you live in but the on"Best" roads you have as much chance of a flat as on gravel roads In my 20 years of driving wreckers I have seem quite a few tire ruined by things the you would never think of being on the roads some of which were a wrench, a pair of pliers, a piece of seashell (in the midwest) nails , screws pieces of scrap metal, chunks of fire wood, a drive shaft out of a tandem semi,(took the lower end out on a 69 Charger Semi). it goes on and on.


The local tire shop has a big jar full of things removed from tires. Amazing.

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Aug 19, 2023 08:23:09   #
Manglesphoto Loc: 70 miles south of St.Louis
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Yes, I remember that. I wonder how many studs were broken off because someone turned the nut the wrong way. I wonder how many wheels fell off because of normal threads.


The majority of cars today are right hand threads on both sides, and they don't come loose if they are tightened properly and the hole in the wheel are not over sized ( by over tightening) I did see one case of this on a school bus, luckily the wheel (r.f.) didn't leave the hub.
The outcome is a long story, but the driver was praised, a mechanic lost his job ( which he should have) and Nobody got hurt. Plus the company implemented a procedure using a go-no go gauge supplied by the wheel Mfgr. too be followed for every tire change.

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Aug 19, 2023 08:45:17   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Manglesphoto wrote:
The majority of cars today are right hand threads on both sides, and they don't come loose if they are tightened properly and the hole in the wheel are not over sized ( by over tightening) I did see one case of this on a school bus, luckily the wheel (r.f.) didn't leave the hub.
The outcome is a long story, but the driver was praised, a mechanic lost his job ( which he should have) and Nobody got hurt. Plus the company implemented a procedure using a go-no go gauge supplied by the wheel Mfgr. too be followed for every tire change.
The majority of cars today are right hand threads ... (show quote)


We've had VWs over the years, and at the time, they had bolts, rather than studs. I had to lift the wheel into position and hold it there while I threaded a bolt through the hole. The aftermarket wheels on my Fit have holes that are extremely recessed, so it's difficult to find the stud to hold the wheel in place. Another bad thing about these wheels is that they have hole patterns to fit other cars, so I always have to figure out which set of holes to use.

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Aug 19, 2023 08:53:56   #
Canisdirus
 
About the only reason I still have my F350 dually.

If I have to go or do anything important...be somewhere...I use that.

I ride with two spares automatically...and if a back tire goes...I usually don't even have to stop.

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