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Aug 18, 2023 02:02:55   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Well, they are leftwing, they are organized, they are violent extremists, and they are actually a lot worse than Trump supporters.


I must have missed them trying to overthrow an election.

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Aug 18, 2023 02:28:08   #
Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal
 
SteveS wrote:
So blame Fulton county and the state of Georgia for releasing the names.

U think GA state law requires it.

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Aug 18, 2023 02:35:17   #
Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Yes, looking into it it was used years ago by pro-life activists.... It has also become an effective tool of the left so much so that they stage protests at people's homes.

I am indifferent to who started it. I, unlike you, am unwilling to us this thin excuse to justify what is happening now. You appear to me saying that two wrongs make a right. Think bout that the next time you or one of your rightwing tribe complain bitterly about how the evil left is destroying the country,

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Aug 18, 2023 08:07:23   #
Truth Seeker Loc: High Mountains of the Western US
 
Bazbo wrote:
If it were not or the unhinged, there would be no MAGA.


And it's not despicable when you guys do it?


https://redstate.com/jeffc/2020/11/10/here-are-10-despicable-ways-far-left-extremists-have-doxxed-conservatives-n277906

What a loser.

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Aug 18, 2023 08:11:05   #
Truth Seeker Loc: High Mountains of the Western US
 
Bazbo wrote:
I am indifferent to who started it. I, unlike you, am unwilling to us this thin excuse to justify what is happening now. You appear to me saying that two wrongs make a right. Think bout that the next time you or one of your rightwing tribe complain bitterly about how the evil left is destroying the country,



There are no perfect people other than Jesus and we conservatives certainly have our share of flaws. However, the vast majority of the serious problems we have in America are a result of liberal beliefs. It doesn’t mean there aren’t some conservatives that are bad actors or that every liberal believes everything on this list, but every corrosive belief you are about to see is mainstream on the Left. Unless liberals can reform themselves, or less likely, can be relegated to the sidelines, the country is unlikely to survive the damage these kinds of beliefs will cumulatively do to our society over the next few decades. Many liberals believe…



1) It’s acceptable to accuse people of racism without proof and with no consequences if you’re wrong.

2) That you can change gender just because you decide to do it and that, worse yet, everyone else must ignore science and biology and pretend you are whatever gender you claim to be even if it isn’t true.

3) That the correct way to deal with people that say things liberals disagree with is to censor them and prevent them from having their opinions heard at all.

4) That we can have a multi-cultural, multi-racial society, while liberals simultaneously encourage all these groups to separate themselves off and hate members of other groups.

5) That the only reason anyone could disagree with a liberal policy is hate and bigotry.

6) That people shouldn’t try to learn from the rich and successful because those people must have cheated somehow to have gotten ahead.

7) That politics has to be part of EVERYTHING from entertainment, to pro-sports, to business, to education. Anywhere liberals get a foothold, the first thing they do is aggressively use it to shove radical liberal views in your face.

8) That it’s okay for college-age men to be tarred as rapists in a college kangaroo court that is stacked against them based on flimsy evidence.

9) That there is no difference between an immigrant who follows our laws and comes here legally and an illegal alien who comes here illegally, acquires forged documentation, and doesn’t even speak our language.

10) That socialism, which has proven to be an economic disaster all over the world is superior to capitalism, which has undeniably lifted more people out of poverty than any other economic system known to man.

11) That big government is the answer to every problem, even though we can never hold it responsible for its endless failures, poor performance, and out-of-control costs.

12) That we can borrow as much money as we want, forevermore, without consequence or without ever having to pay it back.

13) That the news media isn’t all about reporting facts or telling people what happened. On the contrary, to liberals, the news business is nothing more than a way to spread propaganda helpful to their cause and hurts the other side.

14) If you need a “safe space,” want “personal pronouns,” or think you’re a different sex than you were born as, liberals believe that’s everyone else’s problem, not your problem. They believe it’s everyone else’s responsibility to cater to your personal issues, weaknesses, and failings instead of your responsibility to deal with your own issues.


15) That despite the fact America is the most successful, prosperous nation in history, it’s actually a terrible, awful, hateful, unjust, racist country that needs to be changed from top to bottom.

16) That great American heroes of the past who changed this country for the better should be reviled because they held some beliefs that were normal for the times they lived in, but that we find repellant today.

17) That people who don’t agree with them on scientific issues, “don’t believe in science.”

18) That a police officer that kills a violent, armed black man that attacks them automatically went too far and is a racist if they happen to be white.

19) It’s okay for protesters to loot, riot, attack people they disagree with, and break the law, practically with impunity, as long as they’re protesting for a cause that liberals agree with.

20) That every good thing you’ve said, done, and accomplished is less important than one bad joke or offensive tweet, even if you said it years ago.

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Aug 18, 2023 08:47:49   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Truth Seeker wrote:
There are no perfect people other than Jesus and we conservatives certainly have our share of flaws. However, the vast majority of the serious problems we have in America are a result of liberal beliefs. It doesn’t mean there aren’t some conservatives that are bad actors or that every liberal believes everything on this list, but every corrosive belief you are about to see is mainstream on the Left. Unless liberals can reform themselves, or less likely, can be relegated to the sidelines, the country is unlikely to survive the damage these kinds of beliefs will cumulatively do to our society over the next few decades. Many liberals believe…



1) It’s acceptable to accuse people of racism without proof and with no consequences if you’re wrong.

2) That you can change gender just because you decide to do it and that, worse yet, everyone else must ignore science and biology and pretend you are whatever gender you claim to be even if it isn’t true.

3) That the correct way to deal with people that say things liberals disagree with is to censor them and prevent them from having their opinions heard at all.

4) That we can have a multi-cultural, multi-racial society, while liberals simultaneously encourage all these groups to separate themselves off and hate members of other groups.

5) That the only reason anyone could disagree with a liberal policy is hate and bigotry.

6) That people shouldn’t try to learn from the rich and successful because those people must have cheated somehow to have gotten ahead.

7) That politics has to be part of EVERYTHING from entertainment, to pro-sports, to business, to education. Anywhere liberals get a foothold, the first thing they do is aggressively use it to shove radical liberal views in your face.

8) That it’s okay for college-age men to be tarred as rapists in a college kangaroo court that is stacked against them based on flimsy evidence.

9) That there is no difference between an immigrant who follows our laws and comes here legally and an illegal alien who comes here illegally, acquires forged documentation, and doesn’t even speak our language.

10) That socialism, which has proven to be an economic disaster all over the world is superior to capitalism, which has undeniably lifted more people out of poverty than any other economic system known to man.

11) That big government is the answer to every problem, even though we can never hold it responsible for its endless failures, poor performance, and out-of-control costs.

12) That we can borrow as much money as we want, forevermore, without consequence or without ever having to pay it back.

13) That the news media isn’t all about reporting facts or telling people what happened. On the contrary, to liberals, the news business is nothing more than a way to spread propaganda helpful to their cause and hurts the other side.

14) If you need a “safe space,” want “personal pronouns,” or think you’re a different sex than you were born as, liberals believe that’s everyone else’s problem, not your problem. They believe it’s everyone else’s responsibility to cater to your personal issues, weaknesses, and failings instead of your responsibility to deal with your own issues.


15) That despite the fact America is the most successful, prosperous nation in history, it’s actually a terrible, awful, hateful, unjust, racist country that needs to be changed from top to bottom.

16) That great American heroes of the past who changed this country for the better should be reviled because they held some beliefs that were normal for the times they lived in, but that we find repellant today.

17) That people who don’t agree with them on scientific issues, “don’t believe in science.”

18) That a police officer that kills a violent, armed black man that attacks them automatically went too far and is a racist if they happen to be white.

19) It’s okay for protesters to loot, riot, attack people they disagree with, and break the law, practically with impunity, as long as they’re protesting for a cause that liberals agree with.

20) That every good thing you’ve said, done, and accomplished is less important than one bad joke or offensive tweet, even if you said it years ago.
There are no perfect people other than Jesus and w... (show quote)


If you really believe all that, it explains most of your posts. Because it explains it doesn't justify it.

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Aug 18, 2023 08:49:56   #
Truth Seeker Loc: High Mountains of the Western US
 
thom w wrote:
If you really believe all that, it explains most of your posts. Because it explains it doesn't justify it.


I don't believe at that....I KNOW all that. And yes it explains my core beliefs.

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Aug 18, 2023 09:03:53   #
RichieC Loc: Adirondacks
 
Bazbo wrote:
Got evidence or jut an empty allegation? Surly you can't be referencing the anti choice extremists who did this to abortion providers and got a few of them killed? I don't know about you, but I was taught as a wee lad that two wrongs don't make a right.

Lives are at stake and this (to say nothing about the actual assault on our judiciary) will continue given the propensity for violence by MAGA goons.


Here you go Bozo...

>> https://www.politico.com/story/2018/10/03/gop-senators-doxxing-arrest-868122

Supreme Court justices. Also note that the laws that protect them from this sort of thing, were not served.
>> https://www.techtarget.com/searchsecurity/news/252522665/Supreme-Court-justices-doxxed-on-dark-web
>> https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/doxxing-supreme-court-justices-home-addresses
>> https://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/2022/05/12/protection-for-justices-families-stalled-over-inclusion-of-law-clerks-relatives/
>>https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10900319/House-Dems-BLOCK-security-Supreme-Court-justices-arrested-man-threatening-Kavanaugh.html


>>https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/doxing-far-right-violent-extremists/2021/06/20/35f730e2-ba68-11eb-a5fe-bb49dc89a248_story.html
>>https://mediaengagement.org/research/doxing-and-digital-journalism/

And an actual Bill to promote doxing by... "bite-me"
https://www.atr.org/biden-backed-bill-to-dox-conservative-donors-fails-in-the-senate/

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Aug 18, 2023 09:06:28   #
JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.
 
Truth Seeker wrote:
There are no perfect people other than Jesus and we conservatives certainly have our share of flaws. However, the vast majority of the serious problems we have in America are a result of liberal beliefs. It doesn’t mean there aren’t some conservatives that are bad actors or that every liberal believes everything on this list, but every corrosive belief you are about to see is mainstream on the Left. Unless liberals can reform themselves, or less likely, can be relegated to the sidelines, the country is unlikely to survive the damage these kinds of beliefs will cumulatively do to our society over the next few decades. Many liberals believe…



1) It’s acceptable to accuse people of racism without proof and with no consequences if you’re wrong.

2) That you can change gender just because you decide to do it and that, worse yet, everyone else must ignore science and biology and pretend you are whatever gender you claim to be even if it isn’t true.

3) That the correct way to deal with people that say things liberals disagree with is to censor them and prevent them from having their opinions heard at all.

4) That we can have a multi-cultural, multi-racial society, while liberals simultaneously encourage all these groups to separate themselves off and hate members of other groups.

5) That the only reason anyone could disagree with a liberal policy is hate and bigotry.

6) That people shouldn’t try to learn from the rich and successful because those people must have cheated somehow to have gotten ahead.

7) That politics has to be part of EVERYTHING from entertainment, to pro-sports, to business, to education. Anywhere liberals get a foothold, the first thing they do is aggressively use it to shove radical liberal views in your face.

8) That it’s okay for college-age men to be tarred as rapists in a college kangaroo court that is stacked against them based on flimsy evidence.

9) That there is no difference between an immigrant who follows our laws and comes here legally and an illegal alien who comes here illegally, acquires forged documentation, and doesn’t even speak our language.

10) That socialism, which has proven to be an economic disaster all over the world is superior to capitalism, which has undeniably lifted more people out of poverty than any other economic system known to man.

11) That big government is the answer to every problem, even though we can never hold it responsible for its endless failures, poor performance, and out-of-control costs.

12) That we can borrow as much money as we want, forevermore, without consequence or without ever having to pay it back.

13) That the news media isn’t all about reporting facts or telling people what happened. On the contrary, to liberals, the news business is nothing more than a way to spread propaganda helpful to their cause and hurts the other side.

14) If you need a “safe space,” want “personal pronouns,” or think you’re a different sex than you were born as, liberals believe that’s everyone else’s problem, not your problem. They believe it’s everyone else’s responsibility to cater to your personal issues, weaknesses, and failings instead of your responsibility to deal with your own issues.


15) That despite the fact America is the most successful, prosperous nation in history, it’s actually a terrible, awful, hateful, unjust, racist country that needs to be changed from top to bottom.

16) That great American heroes of the past who changed this country for the better should be reviled because they held some beliefs that were normal for the times they lived in, but that we find repellant today.

17) That people who don’t agree with them on scientific issues, “don’t believe in science.”

18) That a police officer that kills a violent, armed black man that attacks them automatically went too far and is a racist if they happen to be white.

19) It’s okay for protesters to loot, riot, attack people they disagree with, and break the law, practically with impunity, as long as they’re protesting for a cause that liberals agree with.

20) That every good thing you’ve said, done, and accomplished is less important than one bad joke or offensive tweet, even if you said it years ago.
There are no perfect people other than Jesus and w... (show quote)


Twenty little piles of excrement steaming in the cool glow of the morning sun.

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Aug 18, 2023 09:09:18   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 


Lol, great sources..."bite-me."

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Aug 18, 2023 10:22:52   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
rwoodvira wrote:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/names-addresses-grand-jurors-georgia-trump-indictment-posted-online-rcna100239

This is despicable. These people were doing their jobs as citizens. A Grand Jury acts to see if there is probable cause of a crime. That's how the system works. If the evidence given them proves an evidence of a crime, they vote for an indictment; if there is not they vote no. Now there is a possibility that they or members of their families could be threatened, injured or killed.

If you don't think they are in danger remember Trump's words: 'If you go after me, I'm coming after you!' We've had an attack on the Capitol because of his words, this puts a target on each of these people.

One of the aspects of the indictment is the two workers who were doing their jobs being condemned by Rudy - their safety and lives were threatened. The Republican who refused who refused to alter the legitimate votes that were counted, and re-counted were threatened. Here we go again.

This is America - it's not Russia or Nazi Germany.

A person on the left or right that approves of this kind of BS doesn't belong in office; whether they are left or right.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/name... (show quote)


Sounds familiar, there are crazy nuts on all sides.

Pro-Abortion Group Publicizes Conservative Supreme Court Justices’ Home Addresses ahead of Planned Protests

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/pro-abortion-group-publicizes-conservative-supreme-court-justices-home-addresses-ahead-of-planned-protests/

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Aug 18, 2023 11:04:09   #
SteveS Loc: The US is my home.
 
Bazbo wrote:
U think GA state law requires it.


Yes

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Aug 18, 2023 11:06:44   #
Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal
 

First off, I never said Blur was wrong. I was just looking for some elementary logic, So you really did'd "get" me no matter what you think og yourself.

Secondly, you put yourself in the "two wrongs make a right" camp. Congratulations, you have just admitted that you are are of the moral decay that is destroying the country--not the evil left.

Lastly, the substance of the matter. Shaming a Nazi is not in the league as threatening the judicial process, is it? Or, if you cannot se the difference, you are demonstrating just how badly your moral compass is broken.

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Aug 18, 2023 14:43:04   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
JohnFrim wrote:
Hillary is passé; a burned out lump of coal. Trump is a hot potato now. If you want to go after Hillary yet again, have at it. But don't drop the ball on nailing Trump just because of a Hillary bungle. As has been said, 2 wrongs don't make a right. They probably both should be in jail, so don't give him a pass...again.

Trump should never again be POTUS. Y'all have the means to stop him now. Ya dropped the ball twice with impeachments. Trump's document charges and 6 Jan insurrection and Georgia election tampering should be top priority of any court right now. These cases should all be heard BEFORE the election next year. Nothing should be higher priority than protecting your Constitution. As Chutkin said, Trump's appearance in court is higher priority than his current day job.
Hillary is passé; a burned out lump of coal. Trump... (show quote)


It's not a matter of Hillary, you are right she is of little more influence than a lump of coal, but it is about a less than honest Executive bureaucracy the actions of which have lead 1/2 the country to believe that the so called justice system in this country that was once touted as the most credible in the world is corrupt with a focus on protecting the connected elites....

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Aug 18, 2023 14:46:40   #
Triple G
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
It's not a matter of Hillary, you are right she is of little more influence than a lump of coal, but it is about a less than honest Executive bureaucracy the actions of which have lead 1/2 the country to believe that the so called justice system in this country that was once touted as the most credible in the world is corrupt with a focus on protecting the connected elites....


That's been brewing since Y2K; nothing good has been done about it since then.

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2022/06/06/public-trust-in-government-1958-2022/

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