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Aug 8, 2023 23:56:06   #
joehel2 Loc: Cherry Hill, NJ
 
This moning, my San Disk Extreme Pro 2tb portable SSD failed. It’s not even six months old. All data, almost 1tb of my photos and LRC catalog gone. Everything was backed up but still a big pain. This evening I received this article in an email:
https://petapixel.com/2023/08/08/sandisk-portable-ssds-are-failing-so-frequently-we-can-no-longer-recommend-them/

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Aug 9, 2023 06:57:23   #
Gatorcoach Loc: New Jersey
 
joehel2 wrote:
This moning, my San Disk Extreme Pro 2tb portable SSD failed. It’s not even six months old. All data, almost 1tb of my photos and LRC catalog gone. Everything was backed up but still a big pain. This evening I received this article in an email:
https://petapixel.com/2023/08/08/sandisk-portable-ssds-are-failing-so-frequently-we-can-no-longer-recommend-them/


Well, that does explain why they have been so cheap lately. Glad I procrastinated long enough to not buy one!

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Aug 9, 2023 07:00:11   #
Gitchigumi Loc: Wake Forest, NC
 
joehel2 wrote:
This moning, my San Disk Extreme Pro 2tb portable SSD failed. It’s not even six months old. All data, almost 1tb of my photos and LRC catalog gone. Everything was backed up but still a big pain. This evening I received this article in an email:
https://petapixel.com/2023/08/08/sandisk-portable-ssds-are-failing-so-frequently-we-can-no-longer-recommend-them/

Ouch! Happy you were backed up, though! Interesting article, too… thanks!

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Aug 9, 2023 07:26:02   #
joehel2 Loc: Cherry Hill, NJ
 
Gatorcoach wrote:
Well, that does explain why they have been so cheap lately. Glad I procrastinated long enough to not buy one!


Yes, the big discount attracted me.

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Aug 9, 2023 07:59:42   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
They laughed when I said I'd rather have a HDD........

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Aug 9, 2023 08:39:55   #
joehel2 Loc: Cherry Hill, NJ
 
Longshadow wrote:
They laughed when I said I'd rather have a HDD........


👍👍

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Aug 9, 2023 14:41:05   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
I’d suggest Samsung or Intel SSDs instead.

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Aug 9, 2023 15:10:39   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
Longshadow wrote:
They laughed when I said I'd rather have a HDD........


In fairness, one manufacturer’s “bad” run of SSDs does not mean that HDs are, in general, more reliable. In fact, the opposite is likely true.

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Aug 9, 2023 17:23:00   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
TriX wrote:
In fairness, one manufacturer’s “bad” run of SSDs does not mean that HDs are, in general, more reliable. In fact, the opposite is likely true.

True. But no one knew that until it happened...
They'll be even better when time gets all the bugs worked out...
I have some hard drives that are over 10 years old, but they were not running 24/7 when in service.
Trusting sole, aren't I.
In over 30 years of using hard drives, (in over a half dozen different computers) I had one that the monitoring software basically said "something's not right with this drive, you should replace it.". I did, with a WD Gold drive. That was in 2017. All the other old hard drives were recycled because they were too small for anything. I still have two 500GB and one 1TB Seagate Barracudas that I use for backups in an external drive dock. Even though my new desktop has a 512GB SSD and a 1TB HD, I added the 6 year old WD Gold 2TB drive from the old desktop to the new desktop as primary data storage.
(Our total storage requirements are less than 500GB so far.)

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Aug 9, 2023 17:38:44   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
Again in fairness, I think the “bugs” have been worked out of SSDs for a long time, at least in the brands I mentioned. I also have a couple of old Seagate Barracudas that last I checked, will still spin up, BUT I also have 5 Intel SSDs that have been running 24x7 for ~ 10 years. With the large yearly price drops and the HUGE performance increase (not to mention size and robustness), the only rational reason to buy new HDs is if you REALLY need more than a few TB storage or are doing constant writes, and 99% of those are enterprise mass storage customers. Since those are the big users of drives, we don’t yet have the long term data on large installations of SSDs that we do on HDs, but from initial data, they appear to be twice the reliability of spinning disk.

If you’re currently running a spinning disk and want to transform your computer’s performance, spend $50-$75 on a Samsung SSD and migrate your OS, applications and scratch space. You WILL see a big difference. My wife had a Win 7 Dell I-5 8GB laptop that was at least 10 years old and just about unusable because the disk was so slow. Spent $50 for a 500GB SSD and bumped it up to Win 10, and now it’s a very usable machine which I use in my ham radio station and runs multiple aps simultaneously with ease.

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Aug 9, 2023 18:48:36   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
TriX wrote:
Again in fairness, I think the “bugs” have been worked out of SSDs for a long time, at least in the brands I mentioned. I also have a couple of old Seagate Barracudas that last I checked, will still spin up, BUT I also have 5 Intel SSDs that have been running 24x7 for ~ 10 years. With the large yearly price drops and the HUGE performance increase (not to mention size and robustness), the only rational reason to buy new HDs is if you REALLY need more than a few TB storage or are doing constant writes, and 99% of those are enterprise mass storage customers. Since those are the big users of drives, we don’t yet have the long term data on large installations of SSDs that we do on HDs, but from initial data, they appear to be twice the reliability of spinning disk.

If you’re currently running a spinning disk and want to transform your computer’s performance, spend $50-$75 on a Samsung SSD and migrate your OS, applications and scratch space. You WILL see a big difference. My wife had a Win 7 Dell I-5 8GB laptop that was at least 10 years old and just about unusable because the disk was so slow. Spent $50 for a 500GB SSD and bumped it up to Win 10, and now it’s a very usable machine which I use in my ham radio station and runs multiple aps simultaneously with ease.
Again in fairness, I think the “bugs” have been wo... (show quote)

Our desktop and both laptops have SSDs for system disks running Win 11.
The 10 year old Win 7 desktop was the last holdout.
Yes, faster that a HD boot, but then, did MS change the startup process for Win 10/11 also?

I also found that Win 11 (the desktop) will run an application that resides (installed) on another computer (my laptop) on our home "network". THAT surprised me!!! The shortcut that Windows installed on the desktop when setting it up (new computer) actually referenced the laptop. I tried putting the shortcut in the task bar, but it wouldn't let me, so I looked at the properties for the shortcut and found the target was on the laptop! I wonder what other surprises the new desktop has for me, other than not showing the color dots for Carbonite,... yet... I'll have to talk to Carbonite about that.

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Aug 9, 2023 19:36:51   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
Longshadow wrote:
…I also found that Win 11 (the desktop) will run an application that resides (installed) on another computer (my laptop) on our home "network". THAT surprised me!!!….


That surprises me also!

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Aug 9, 2023 19:43:10   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
TriX wrote:
That surprises me also!

I wondered why the program had "already been configured" on the desktop. I didn't remember doing it.
Once I changed the target to the copy on the desktop, I had to configure it (new installation on the desktop).

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Aug 12, 2023 07:01:04   #
Gatorcoach Loc: New Jersey
 
TriX wrote:
I’d suggest Samsung or Intel SSDs instead.


I have 2 Crucial SSDs and am very happy with them. Wouldn't hesitate to buy another if needed.

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Aug 12, 2023 11:44:16   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
Gatorcoach wrote:
I have 2 Crucial SSDs and am very happy with them. Wouldn't hesitate to buy another if needed.

Understand - I buy Crucial for DRAM where they have an excellent record - the brand is owned by Micron, a major DRAM and memory fab company in the US who at one time owned Lexar before selling it to the Chinese. I’m not saying Samsung or Intel is the only game in town, just saying that their reliability has been proven over many years and hundreds of millions of units. Samsung seems to be leading in terms of performance/$.

As far as SanDisk SSDs suddenly failing and losing data, it’s a known issue for its latest SSDs. While they make the standard for SD cards, I wouldn’t touch one of this series of SSDs:

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/05/sandisk-extreme-ssds-keep-abruptly-failing-firmware-fix-for-only-some-promised/

https://www.engadget.com/western-digital-promises-to-release-firmware-update-for-failing-sandisk-extreme-ssds-211924180.html guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAE7MCQj9DWusXqgihbQCgv2_nVbY17hPxPjQaLqoKitnRVqH-cbTyDOXq_kCA5I_ezmU9ULojDiSoZ5kzcKY36fy0yAj8SLiRbaSc4rKAGhHNX-IgFZS_mruXIGslraS_XGMiOG0TeTh4thHWIQLq3wKx0YIe9X3NOhLSaTCOMjj#:~:text=If%20you%20own%20a%20SanDisk,generally%20known%20for%20their%20reliability.

https://www.theverge.com/2023/5/22/23733267/sandisk-extreme-pro-failure-ssd-firmware

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