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Jul 12, 2023 14:56:00   #
revhen Loc: By the beautiful Hudson
 
I have a Brother laser printer for b&w documents, a HP Envy inkjet for quick and easy color, and a Canon Pixma 300 for large and more permanent color prints. It may seem like overkill but it works for me.

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Jul 12, 2023 16:22:00   #
Sidwalkastronomy Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
I have eco tank 8550 that in a year has been replaced 5 times in a year due to ink smudging on prints. At no time did customer service ever say don't print borderless
I finally found out that if I print with a small white border there is no mess. I'm not going to buy the next size paper and trim it down. With Edison paper 11x14 a dollar a sheet all the money saved on Ink would be spent on paper.
5 different machines in a year.

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Jul 12, 2023 16:46:31   #
Real Nikon Lover Loc: Simi Valley, CA
 
clixpix wrote:
Hi Folks:

My HP Officejet 5200 series printer has bitten the dust and I need to get another printer. Many here have suggested the Eco Tank printers from Epson. I am interested your collective thoughts as to which model I should consider. I print some photos and other colored objects along with the general b&w stuff. As others have suggested the cost of ink is going out of sight and the eco tank system may be a good, less expensive, option. Any thoughts, model numbers and why would be appreciated. Thanks in advance for the forthcoming information.

Regards====Joe
Hi Folks: br br My HP Officejet 5200 series print... (show quote)


I have had 2 of the Epson Ecotanks printers and both printed great photos. When I bought mine it came with a year of ink (based on average use) and a second year of ink sealed in a bag! I print a lot of 8x10s. Currently I own the ET-4550 which was actually given to me in exchange for an earlier ET model that died and couldn't be repaired. I bought the original printer from Best Buy (on sale) and the authorized repair dealer exchanged my printer for the upgrade to the ET 4550. I have had that printer now for 5 years and works like a champ.

If you are a Costco member they often have good deals on these and have a great return policy.

Note: These color printers require regular printing of color documents in order to keep the ink heads from drying up. It is far better to use these regularly than to let them sit and take a chance of premature failure from drying out. I print a color photo at least once a week to keep the heads clean. Head cleaning is important and is done as a menu option. There have been several posts on UHH that address this and flushing ink.

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Jul 12, 2023 16:51:21   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Sidwalkastronomy wrote:
I have eco tank 8550 that in a year has been replaced 5 times in a year due to ink smudging on prints. At no time did customer service ever say don't print borderless
I finally found out that if I print with a small white border there is no mess. I'm not going to buy the next size paper and trim it down. With Edison paper 11x14 a dollar a sheet all the money saved on Ink would be spent on paper.
5 different machines in a year.


You can "overspray" *light* in an optical laser printer using silver halide light-sensitive paper. But overspraying ink in an inkjet printer just leads to trouble. I know Epson's marketing borders on deceptive, but I also know that every product has its real-world limitations. I print everything smaller than 8.5x11 on 8.5x11 paper, using the "package print" layouts in Lightroom Classic. I designed custom layouts for larger print sizes on standard papers.

Years of experience with Epson 44" professional printers taught me the PRACTICAL limits:

> Use OEM inks if you use OEM papers with the built-in profiles. Otherwise, the colors will not be right.

> if you want accurate color when using third party inks, make your own ICC profiles for each paper stock you use. This is time consuming and expensive, so think twice before proceeding.

> NEVER use third party pigment inks (in Epson PRO series printers) after using Epson OEM pigment inks. You'll get precipitates in the heads and ink lines and have to replace them.

> NEVER print borderless if you want the printer to last.

> Buy papers in the most popular sizes to get the lowest prices.

> Don't tear or cut paper with a dull blade and run it through the printer. Paper dust eventually will damage the heads.

> Epson default margins are set that way for a reason. There is usually .56" on one end of the paper so the image isn't smeared on that end. When your printer is relatively new, you can shorten it to .12 or whatever the other three default margins are, and get away with that. But for best quality, maintain conservative margins.

> When using third party papers with their downloadable ICC profiles, use OEM inks, because the profiles were made with OEM inks!

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Jul 12, 2023 18:06:26   #
Flyerace Loc: Mt Pleasant, WI
 
I bought one of the first, ET2550, and am extremely happy with it. It will do a very good job printing photos and documents.

I would expect the newer models will have better capabilities. I, too, had a failure of the first one and they sent me a new one with a return box and postage. Haven't had a problem since.

I would recommend this over all the ones that have cartridges. They gave me "2 years" worth of ink with the printer. I guess I don't print too many things. The ink they gave me is still kicking it (with the exception of black-that I've purchased)

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Jul 13, 2023 01:16:33   #
Fredrick Loc: Former NYC, now San Francisco Bay Area
 
clixpix wrote:
Hi Folks:

My HP Officejet 5200 series printer has bitten the dust and I need to get another printer. Many here have suggested the Eco Tank printers from Epson. I am interested your collective thoughts as to which model I should consider. I print some photos and other colored objects along with the general b&w stuff. As others have suggested the cost of ink is going out of sight and the eco tank system may be a good, less expensive, option. Any thoughts, model numbers and why would be appreciated. Thanks in advance for the forthcoming information.

Regards====Joe
Hi Folks: br br My HP Officejet 5200 series print... (show quote)

I’ve had the Epson eco-tank ET 4850 printer for about a year now and absolutely love it. I’ve had no problems with it whatsoever and print 4 x 6, 5 x 7, and 8 x 10 Prints that look absolutely fine. I’m still on the original set of inks that came with the printer.

Prior to this printer I had an HP all in one photo printer and every other month would spend about $170 in ink. Best decision I ever made with this new printer.

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Jul 13, 2023 08:07:55   #
Drbobcameraguy Loc: Eaton Ohio
 
Jimmy T wrote:
I have an all-in-one Epson "Eco-Tank" printer that has economically and trouble-free printed literally thousands of pages of documents.
I have NOT printed ANY photos so I can't vouch for that capability.
However, Epson now offers (see links below) two Eco-Tank printers for photos.
Our paper cost$ now exceed our ink costs.

https://epson.com/ecotank-ink-tank-printers
https://www.costco.com/CatalogSearch?dept=All&keyword=epson+printers
Best Wishes,
JimmyT Sends
I have an all-in-one Epson "Eco-Tank" pr... (show quote)


If you buy a Canon or Epson printer get your ink from precision color. Great company have used them for years. Also Jtoolman on utube is a great source for information on those two brands.

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Jul 13, 2023 09:31:13   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Drbobcameraguy wrote:
If you buy a Canon or Epson printer get your ink from precision color. Great company have used them for years. Also Jtoolman on utube is a great source for information on those two brands.


Reds are a problem with those inks, as Jose points out in his tests... You will need a custom profile — for each combination of paper, ink, and printer — to reduce this problem.

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Jul 13, 2023 10:34:34   #
bobbyjohn Loc: Dallas, TX
 
Depending on how quickly you would need to print photographs, and depending on how much you are willing to pay for color ink, you might consider this methodology which I have used for many years.

I only print B&W, mostly documents, so all I need is a good laser printer (I have HP P2035). On the rare instance that I might wish to get a good color print, I will either go to a local shop to print JPGs...or better yet upload the pictures to MPIX.com which has excellent print quality, and they will mail your print copies back to you. I'm sure there are other online print sites also. With this methodology, you never have to buy color ink at high prices...I only buy a (non-OEM) laser toner cartridge which typically lasts many years for me. YMMV.

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Jul 13, 2023 11:51:43   #
joelbolden
 
I bought the Epson ET-2800 about 6 months ago to supplement my HP LaserJet printer and have done some photos with it. It does a perfectly acceptable job on up to 8 X 10" prints and so far I'm still on my first 4 bottles of ink.

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Jul 13, 2023 13:16:15   #
Sidwalkastronomy Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
Due to an unplanned back issue I didn't use my eco tant 8550 for 3 months and no ink head clogging issues at all.

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Jul 15, 2023 12:02:37   #
one_eyed_pete Loc: Colonie NY
 
clixpix wrote:
Hi Folks:

My HP Officejet 5200 series printer has bitten the dust and I need to get another printer. Many here have suggested the Eco Tank printers from Epson. I am interested your collective thoughts as to which model I should consider. I print some photos and other colored objects along with the general b&w stuff. As others have suggested the cost of ink is going out of sight and the eco tank system may be a good, less expensive, option. Any thoughts, model numbers and why would be appreciated. Thanks in advance for the forthcoming information.

Regards====Joe
Hi Folks: br br My HP Officejet 5200 series print... (show quote)

First let me suggest you check out youtube videos by JToolman ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0AmcGCYRG8 ). Jose has 18 printers, both Epson and Canon.

We hear about the guy who buys a new car and has to take it back to the dealer 5 times in the first year. We don't hear about the guy who buys a new car and keeps it for 20 years. Both cases are not the norm. I have been printing at home for about 30 years and gone thru 3 Epson printers in that time. Printers are highly technical devices which require frequent use and periodic maintenance. Yes, I have used aftermarket carts and even refilled carts. A few months ago I got an ET-8550 based on Jose' comments and have been thrilled with it's performance. Not printing borderless is not a concern because I print with a 1/8" border which is hidden by any mat or frame.

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Jul 15, 2023 12:24:13   #
Sidwalkastronomy Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
Not printing borderless is KEY.
it should not be sold as a birderless printer.
I went through 5 printers,8550 in the first 7 months. Ink spots all over every print due to over spray

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Jul 16, 2023 11:00:26   #
one_eyed_pete Loc: Colonie NY
 
Sidwalkastronomy wrote:
Not printing borderless is KEY.
it should not be sold as a birderless printer.
I went through 5 printers,8550 in the first 7 months. Ink spots all over every print due to over spray


Agree. Another example of "marketing" foolishness.

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Aug 30, 2023 23:51:57   #
joelbolden
 
I recently bought an Epson ET-2800 wireless and it come with an Epson Photo3 setting. I've printed out a number of 8.5x11 photos with it and quite frankly I like them better than the ones I've received from The Darkroom.

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