Presidential Aircraft June 20th 2023: The president made a visit to California the week of June 19th. These photos were taken on the 20th with a iPhone 12 max pro. As can be seen I was...

marine73 Loc: Modesto California

The president made a visit to California the week of June 19th. These photos were taken on the 20th with a iPhone 12 max pro. As can be seen I was able to get pretty close. With the Ospreys there were always two in the air in the vicinity of the airport providing security for airfare one along with a ground team that was providing preimeter security. Hope you enjoy. I meant to put these in the smart phone photography section but had a brain fart instead.

MV22 Osprey taxing for take-off

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MV22 Osprey taxing for take-off in front of the van that I was riding in

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Second MV22 Osprey preparing for taxi

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Airforce one as seen from road on the AOA (Airport Operations Area)

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Airforce one as seen from the ramp area in front of my company hangers. Our hanger doors had to be completely shut when they departed.

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Curmudgeon Loc: SE Arizona

Beautiful shots of cool airplanes. I wonder how many Marines the Osprey has killed in its career?

Scruples Loc: Brooklyn, New York

The Osprey is an interesting helicopter. I would like to pilot her but I still working on my single prop rating. At this rate, I’ll be 245 years old when I get that rating.

There are two things about people learning to pilot a plane.
You either have plenty of time to learn but no money to take lessons OR plenty of money to learn but no time to to take lessons.

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

What a plane! It's like something that appeared in a designer's dream, and he actually went ahead and built one.

"I bet you couldn't build a plane like this." "Oh, yeah? Watch me!"

DougS Loc: Central Arkansas

Very interesting set!

flyguy Loc: Las Cruces, New Mexico

Great shots!

Bloke Loc: Waynesboro, Pennsylvania

Interesting thing about Air Force One... When it comes time to retire the 747, there is some sort of law which states that the President's official aircraft must be 4-engined. I guess for redundancy and safety reasons. Thing is, nobody is building 4-engine planes anymore...

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

Bloke wrote:

Interesting thing about Air Force One... When it comes time to retire the 747, there is some sort of law which states that the President's official aircraft must be 4-engined. I guess for redundancy and safety reasons. Thing is, nobody is building 4-engine planes anymore...

Yes, and that's going to be a problem. The 747 is the only one close to being possible. The ones being built now were originally ordered for Russia, I think, so Boeing didn't have to build them. Planes can fly on one engine but not for long distances or long periods of time, especially a plane like Air Force One. Boeing is having so much trouble converting it that it will be a long time before it's ready.

Maybe Airbus could build an A380.

DJphoto Loc: SF Bay Area

jerryc41 wrote:

Yes, and that's going to be a problem. The 747 is... (show quote)

I doubt that would be considered due to the fact that it's not made in America and thus long-term support can't be guaranteed, as well as it violating the "buy American" act. The new 747-8 presidential airplanes should be good for at least 25 years of service.

marine73 Loc: Modesto California

Scruples wrote:

The Osprey is an interesting helicopter. I would like to pilot her but I still working on my single prop rating. At this rate, I’ll be 245 years old when I get that rating.

There are two things about people learning to pilot a plane.
You either have plenty of time to learn but no money to take lessons OR plenty of money to learn but no time to to take lessons.

I was in the first part and it still took me 30 tears to get my single engine license.

markngolf Loc: Bridgewater, NJ

I live about 2 air miles from Trump National Golf Course in Bedminster, NJ. When he occupied the White House, he made frequent trips to the course. I never had to read accounts of his arrival. The huge decibel levels of the helicopters overhead always announced his arrival.
Mark

SteveR Loc: Michigan

Scruples wrote:

The Osprey is an interesting helicopter. I would like to pilot her but I still working on my single prop rating. At this rate, I’ll be 245 years old when I get that rating.

There are two things about people learning to pilot a plane.
You either have plenty of time to learn but no money to take lessons OR plenty of money to learn but no time to to take lessons.

Times have certainly changed. A h.s. friend of mine, now a retired airline pilot, earned money for flying lessons in high school by mowing yards. You couldn't do that today.

Gundog Loc: Beaufort, SC

Retired Marine officer here. No more than any other new aircraft. I remember when CH-53Es came into service. They were falling out of the sky like leaves in October. Aircraft manufacturers have so much political clout they are not held accountable for obvious and know mechanical and/or design flaws. If fact, make lots of money fixing problems that should never been problems. The 22 is a good aircraft, but yes, too many military lives(Air Force and Navy have variants) will be lost before the bugs are worked out. Bugs that the manufacturers let through so they could make more money. IMHO

DJphoto Loc: SF Bay Area

Gundog wrote:

Retired Marine officer here. No more than any othe... (show quote)

Thank you for your service Gundog. The V-22 is arguably the most complex aircraft the military has ever operated and has some flight characteristics that are different from any other aircraft. It also has capabilities that no other military aircraft has. One issue that resulted in some early mishaps was entering into ring state vortex at a higher than authorized descent rate, something that is an issue with all rotary wing aircraft. However, the V-22 appears to be more susceptible to it due to it's higher disc loading. While not a V-22 expert, I'm an aerospace engineer who spent the first 26 years of my career doing in-service engineering on Navy aircraft as a Navy civilian engineer, then the last 9 as a NASA engineer.