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Jun 29, 2023 08:59:46   #
Red6
 
WarpedWeaver wrote:
It is all in how people see things. I work in a children's museum and science center. Yesterday I watched a family group of about 8 people standing in front of one of our animatronic dinosaurs and the girl taking the photo repeatedly telling them to "get closer". I walked over and offered to take a couple of shots, did it horizontally, got everyone in, all were happy. The girl actually said "why didn't I think of that?"


I had a very similar, but opposite, experience with a couple. My wife and I were at an amusement park and we observed a couple trying to take a selfie photo with their iPhone. I offered to take it for them and they accepted. I turned the iPhone horizontally and took the photo taking in a much wider view of the parks. They looked at it, did not like it, and requested me to retake the photo holding it vertically. I did as requested and they were happy, though, in my opinion, it was an inferior photo.

However, in their defense, it was their photo and that is what they wanted. And as some here have said, most people view their phone photos in the vertical orientation, and the horizontal image would have required anyone they sent the photo to rotate their phone for viewing. And I agree, when viewing photos on a phone it is a pain to rotate the phone back and forth when viewing images.

Most phone users learned to handle their phone in the vertical position and this now seems natural. The horizontal position feels unnatural and awkward.

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Jun 29, 2023 09:24:19   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
Rongnongno wrote:
Well, narrow vision is a thing we suffer all our lives by not having enough experience or good sense to change the perspective when confronted with something...

What the heck this has to do with photography and smartphone?

Simple: I am tired of seeing folks using their phone vertically regardless of subject. I know the camera lenses are on top but come on, open the field, use horizontal for god's sake, you will see your (err...) subjects better.

Ease of use, availability, does not justify sloppiness. A small twist of a wrist and that's it! There! A brand new worldwide is in front of your... camera.

Anyway, another rant...
Well, narrow vision is a thing we suffer all our l... (show quote)


I agree. Emil Pakarklis has a great video on how to hold a smartphone for stability, vertically or horizontally with a flip of the wrist. It ain’t that hard.

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Jun 29, 2023 09:27:52   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
And there’s a subset of snap shooters who don’t have a clue about how to hold their DSLR's for stability in portrait or landscape mode.

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Jun 29, 2023 09:38:48   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Red6 wrote:
I had a very similar, but opposite, experience with a couple. My wife and I were at an amusement park and we observed a couple trying to take a selfie photo with their iPhone. I offered to take it for them and they accepted. I turned the iPhone horizontally and took the photo taking in a much wider view of the parks. They looked at it, did not like it, and requested me to retake the photo holding it vertically. I did as requested and they were happy, though, in my opinion, it was an inferior photo.

However, in their defense, it was their photo and that is what they wanted. And as some here have said, most people view their phone photos in the vertical orientation, and the horizontal image would have required anyone they sent the photo to rotate their phone for viewing. And I agree, when viewing photos on a phone it is a pain to rotate the phone back and forth when viewing images.

Most phone users learned to handle their phone in the vertical position and this now seems natural. The horizontal position feels unnatural and awkward.
I had a very similar, but opposite, experience wit... (show quote)


That’s so odd! I learned to turn the phone in the best orientation for the content in view. That’s been one of the key capabilities of iPhones, since 2007.

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Jun 29, 2023 09:40:40   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Retired CPO wrote:
Sounds like a few of our members need to get a grip...and a life!


EXACTLY right. I would think every cell phone owner knows there is a horizontal use for the camera as well BUT choose not to use that format. Even in normal cameras we all use, there is a choice of the format, horizontal or vertical. Nobody ever questions that usage and leaves it up to the photographer to determine how he/she wants to present the photograph.

What a mindless minuscule complaint of how someone else positions their cell phone to take a picture. I don't think I have seen anything dumber or minor to whine about. A grip and a life is long overdue for many of these people.

Dennis

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Jun 29, 2023 09:45:29   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
User ID wrote:
Ive always prefered horizontal for ALL personal work. On the job everything is acoarst dictated by usage, by the AD, etc.

Our environment is horizontal, even if you are a pilot or work high steel, whatever, the context is either along the ground plane or rising from the ground plane, but the ground plane is foundational and I frame everything according to that.

If theres really no way to present some tall narrow subject in the context of a horizontal environment then, for me, theres nothing to work with, no photo.

I will go with square if that works, even a "tall-ish" square (only slightly taller than the width). But I never liked the look of a vertically shaped subject excised from its environs just to fit into a frame. For me its simply not worth framing.

Attached are mostly phone pix, and yes phones really are a humongous PITA to operate horizontally :-(
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I agree with what you are saying. But there are some notable exceptions. For "outdoor" photography, trees and waterfalls are two prominent examples of vertical subjects. Most architecturally interesting buildings are taller than they are wide. Sculptures tend to be more vertical than horizontal. And...perhaps most significant...human beings are a vertical species. We're even vertical when we are sitting down.

While gravity on a largely planar planet has conformed us to a flat, horizontal existence, it's interesting that so many of us seek leisure in a more vertical world. I love mountains, and my three favorite places in the world are the Grand Canyon, Carlsbad Caverns, and the various redwood and sequoia groves. These are all vertical in structure, extent, and dimension.

So I am at least a little bit tempted to argue that our "horizontalism" is just familiarity, habit, and perhaps laziness. Ny the way, I am looking out the window to the back yard. It has blinds. They are horizontal. I think to try to make the room look bigger.

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Jun 29, 2023 09:53:14   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
dennis2146 wrote:
EXACTLY right. I would think every cell phone owner knows there is a horizontal use for the camera as well BUT choose not to use that format. Even in normal cameras we all use, there is a choice of the format, horizontal or vertical. Nobody ever questions that usage and leaves it up to the photographer to determine how he/she wants to present the photograph.

What a mindless minuscule complaint of how someone else positions their cell phone to take a picture. I don't think I have seen anything dumber or minor to whine about. A grip and a life is long overdue for many of these people.

Dennis
EXACTLY right. I would think every cell phone own... (show quote)


We love whining here on UHH.
Otherwise what could be posted.

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Jun 29, 2023 10:35:36   #
HRoss Loc: Longmont, CO
 

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Jun 29, 2023 10:53:53   #
Canisdirus
 
Same folks who go to Vegas and tell the hooker they are doing it wrong.

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Jun 29, 2023 11:46:09   #
User ID
 
BebuLamar wrote:
Because normal cameras are designed to be easier to hold in the landscape orientation and the phones are easier to hold in portrait orientation.

The great thing about the 126 format was the shape. I had a few of the advanced 126 models and they were a blast. I used exclusively TX126 :-)

Also had a Robot Star 24 that shot 24x24 on 135, over 50 frames per load.


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Jun 29, 2023 11:51:21   #
alberio Loc: Casa Grande AZ
 
larryepage wrote:
On the other hand, I find that users of "real" cameras are, in general, too attached to landscape-oriented photographs. They are almost equally resistant to using portrait orientation or (horror of horrors) square format.


I use square format usually with astro photos, unless they are wide field.

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Jun 29, 2023 12:30:06   #
Bushpilot Loc: Minnesota
 
I just set it in the Square format and pretend I have a Hasselblad.

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Jun 29, 2023 12:58:09   #
kerry12 Loc: Harrisburg, Pa.
 
Rongnongno wrote:
Well, narrow vision is a thing we suffer all our lives by not having enough experience or good sense to change the perspective when confronted with something...

What the heck this has to do with photography and smartphone?

Simple: I am tired of seeing folks using their phone vertically regardless of subject. I know the camera lenses are on top but come on, open the field, use horizontal for god's sake, you will see your (err...) subjects better.

Ease of use, availability, does not justify sloppiness. A small twist of a wrist and that's it! There! A brand new worldwide is in front of your... camera.

Anyway, another rant...
Well, narrow vision is a thing we suffer all our l... (show quote)


I agree. I have always wondered why people thought they had to hold it vertically.

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Jun 29, 2023 13:17:29   #
PHRubin Loc: Nashville TN USA
 
One problem is cellphone users often don't know how to rotate the resulting images, or videos, for computer use.

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Jun 29, 2023 13:25:27   #
jamesl Loc: Pennsylvania
 
Rongnongno wrote:
Well, narrow vision is a thing we suffer all our lives by not having enough experience or good sense to change the perspective when confronted with something...

What the heck this has to do with photography and smartphone?

Simple: I am tired of seeing folks using their phone vertically regardless of subject. I know the camera lenses are on top but come on, open the field, use horizontal for god's sake, you will see your (err...) subjects better.

Ease of use, availability, does not justify sloppiness. A small twist of a wrist and that's it! There! A brand new worldwide is in front of your... camera.

Anyway, another rant...
Well, narrow vision is a thing we suffer all our l... (show quote)


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