Very interesting. As later brought up in the article, there are different factors that could combine to drive the ebb and flow of ice ages. Those changes are slow.
But just to perhaps head off the usual climate change deniers, the warming trend we are having now is far, far too rapid to be about a natural climate cycle. Those (natural climate cycles) play out over high 1000's of years so that no one would perceive a change over their lifetime, let alone over some generations. The climate is now significantly changing in under a century, and anyone who has been around for several decades is able to notice the effects within their lifetime.
Natural Climate Change! It's been changing for eons and will continue to do so. However, the big deal with climate change now is that the scientists say it is changing too rapidly and that we are the primary cause. I personally feel that this is only partially true, but do think that we do indeed have an affect. However, whether we are the primary cause of this rapid change has never really been properly studied. If we stopped all our greenhouse gas emissions (which isn't going to happen anytime soon), could it possibly stop Climate Change and turn the changes back the other way? Somehow how I doubt it, but that's just an opinion. I would sure like to see some real scientific study on this issue rather than the knee-jerk reactions we get bombarded with on a daily basis.
Mark Sturtevant wrote:
Very interesting. As later brought up in the article, there are different factors that could combine to drive the ebb and flow of ice ages. Those changes are slow.
But just to perhaps head off the usual climate change deniers, the warming trend we are having now is far, far too rapid to be about a natural climate cycle. Those (natural climate cycles) play out over high 1000's of years so that no one would perceive a change over their lifetime, let alone over some generations. The climate is now significantly changing in under a century, and anyone who has been around for several decades is able to notice the effects within their lifetime.
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Is that really true or just a function of old age? Having grown up in the tropics of Africa I could handle the heat. Now as I am in my 80's I don't handle the heat that well.
Bison Bud wrote:
Natural Climate Change! It's been changing for eons and will continue to do so. However, the big deal with climate change now is that the scientists say it is changing too rapidly and that we are the primary cause. I personally feel that this is only partially true, but do think that we do indeed have an affect. However, whether we are the primary cause of this rapid change has never really been properly studied. If we stopped all our greenhouse gas emissions (which isn't going to happen anytime soon), could it possibly stop Climate Change and turn the changes back the other way? Somehow how I doubt it, but that's just an opinion. I would sure like to see some real scientific study on this issue rather than the knee-jerk reactions we get bombarded with on a daily basis.
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My belief is that scientists are led by their grants and will say anything to pacify their supporters to keep the money flowing!
Mark Sturtevant wrote:
Very interesting. As later brought up in the article, there are different factors that could combine to drive the ebb and flow of ice ages. Those changes are slow.
But just to perhaps head off the usual climate change deniers, the warming trend we are having now is far, far too rapid to be about a natural climate cycle. Those (natural climate cycles) play out over high 1000's of years so that no one would perceive a change over their lifetime, let alone over some generations. The climate is now significantly changing in under a century, and anyone who has been around for several decades is able to notice the effects within their lifetime.
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Not to start another argument but changes like we've seen in the last 100 years are not uncommon and also do not indicate any kind of permanence either. The little ice age in the 1700s is just an example of this in the opposite direction. None of the dire predictions of the last 40 years have come anywhere close to reality and one could make a pretty good case based on solar cycles and timing that we may be heading into another ice age. It's convenient to label those who don't agree with current opinion as climate deniers. Perhaps we should examine who's denying what.
Back in the early '70s, all the climatologists were hollering, "An ice age is coming! The government must do something!" And despite the dire warnings, nothing happened. (Remember the boy who cried "Wolf!"?)
This goes with those who claimed coffee was bad, eggs could kill you, and butter?? The Devil's grease! My granny had 2 eggs fried in butter every day, with a cup of coffee. She lived into her mid-90s. Not bad for someone born in 1891,with a birthweight of 2 lbs.!
Sometimes it seems these "experts" are like baby birds – the noisiest gets fed first.
My opinion – agree/disagree, it don't matter.
--Rich
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