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Jun 13, 2023 23:50:52   #
Robertl594 Loc: Bloomfield Hills, Michigan and Nantucket
 
In light of the horrible increase in mass shootings, I have made the conscious decision to no longer say that I am going to shoot, but rather going to photograph or take pictures. There is such a new negative connotation of the words “to shoot”, and rightfully so.

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Jun 14, 2023 00:06:31   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Robertl594 wrote:
In light of the horrible increase in mass shootings, I have made the conscious decision to no longer say that I am going to shoot, but rather going to photograph or take pictures. There is such a new negative connotation of the words “to shoot”, and rightfully so.


When I joined a company in 1979 that made school portraits and yearbooks, one of the first things I was taught was to lose the word, "shoot" from my vocabulary when discussing photography in any context. It was completely taboo, and I came to realize why. That's an industry that comes close to millions of children. We didn't "shoot kids' portraits" or "shoot pictures." We made portraits and photographs.

We didn't "take" anything, either. We "recorded images." "Taking someone's picture" sounds like stealing their identity or persona.

It sounds silly to some to buck what has become convention, but cameras do not "fire" anything or "shoot" projectiles. They make exposures to record images.

"Shooting pictures" sounds like going to a rifle range with your enemy's photo in hand and using it as a target...

This is not simple political correctness. It is simply common sense, respect, and courtesy. There are plenty of folks with PTSD from horrific events who do not need a random triggering event to remind them of what gave them PTSD.

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Jun 14, 2023 02:31:34   #
PhotogHobbyist Loc: Bradford, PA
 
burkphoto wrote:
When I joined a company in 1979 that made school portraits and yearbooks, one of the first things I was taught was to lose the word, "shoot" from my vocabulary when discussing photography in any context. It was completely taboo, and I came to realize why. That's an industry that comes close to millions of children. We didn't "shoot kids' portraits" or "shoot pictures." We made portraits and photographs.

We didn't "take" anything, either. We "recorded images." "Taking someone's picture" sounds like stealing their identity or persona.

It sounds silly to some to buck what has become convention, but cameras do not "fire" anything or "shoot" projectiles. They make exposures to record images.

"Shooting pictures" sounds like going to a rifle range with your enemy's photo in hand and using it as a target...

This is not simple political correctness. It is simply common sense, respect, and courtesy. There are plenty of folks with PTSD from horrific events who do not need a random triggering event to remMind them of what gave them PTSD.
When I joined a company in 1979 that made school p... (show quote)


Like you, I also worked with a school photography company and had the same instruction/advice. Since leaving that employment I have slightly regressed into old habits. I do however realize my error and am trying to get back to capturing images and recording scenes and people. Your provide sage advice.

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Jun 14, 2023 03:57:28   #
Scruples Loc: Brooklyn, New York
 
Everything in today’s society is changing so drastically that we are doing a rethink. I am fearful of traumatizing anyone. As my main career is as a pharmacist, I would not want to harm others. It is a sacred trust to do my best to help all. But we need to be careful here on the Ugly Hedge Hog. In the past I inadvertently treaded on a topic. Our Admin saw fit to send us up to The Attic.

Thank you for taking the time to enlightening us.

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Jun 14, 2023 05:56:15   #
Robertl594 Loc: Bloomfield Hills, Michigan and Nantucket
 
burkphoto wrote:
When I joined a company in 1979 that made school portraits and yearbooks, one of the first things I was taught was to lose the word, "shoot" from my vocabulary when discussing photography in any context. It was completely taboo, and I came to realize why. That's an industry that comes close to millions of children. We didn't "shoot kids' portraits" or "shoot pictures." We made portraits and photographs.

We didn't "take" anything, either. We "recorded images." "Taking someone's picture" sounds like stealing their identity or persona.

It sounds silly to some to buck what has become convention, but cameras do not "fire" anything or "shoot" projectiles. They make exposures to record images.

"Shooting pictures" sounds like going to a rifle range with your enemy's photo in hand and using it as a target...

This is not simple political correctness. It is simply common sense, respect, and courtesy. There are plenty of folks with PTSD from horrific events who do not need a random triggering event to remind them of what gave them PTSD.
When I joined a company in 1979 that made school p... (show quote)


So well said. Thank you.

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Jun 14, 2023 05:57:00   #
Robertl594 Loc: Bloomfield Hills, Michigan and Nantucket
 
PhotogHobbyist wrote:
Like you, I also worked with a school photography company and had the same instruction/advice. Since leaving that employment I have slightly regressed into old habits. I do however realize my error and am trying to get back to capturing images and recording scenes and people. Your provide sage advice.

Thank you!

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Jun 14, 2023 05:59:32   #
Robertl594 Loc: Bloomfield Hills, Michigan and Nantucket
 
Scruples wrote:
Everything in today’s society is changing so drastically that we are doing a rethink. I am fearful of traumatizing anyone. As my main career is as a pharmacist, I would not want to harm others. It is a sacred trust to do my best to help all. But we need to be careful here on the Ugly Hedge Hog. In the past I inadvertently treaded on a topic. Our Admin saw fit to send us up to The Attic.

Sensitivity is a wonderful trait. Just takes a little awareness and consideration. Thank you for sharing this.

Thank you for taking the time to enlightening us.
Everything in today’s society is changing so drast... (show quote)

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Jun 14, 2023 07:27:27   #
Scruples Loc: Brooklyn, New York
 
Robertl594 wrote:
In light of the horrible increase in mass shootings, I have made the conscious decision to no longer say that I am going to shoot, but rather going to photograph or take pictures. There is such a new negative connotation of the words “to shoot”, and rightfully so.


I agree with you and will make a conscience effort to discontinue the negative connotation here.

I was not aware of the ramifications of these otherwise “harmless” spoken words.

On another thread here, someone was using a rifle stock to support their camera gear. Sadly, I am sure that those who buy and use it will have an extremely unfortunate experience.

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Jun 14, 2023 08:10:51   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 


Does that mean we can't say "Oh, shoot!" instead of "Oh shit!" anymore?

(Gonna need a larger bandwagon.)

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Jun 14, 2023 08:13:17   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
Longshadow wrote:


Does that mean we can't say "Oh, shoot!" instead of "Oh shit!" anymore?

(Gonna need a larger bandwagon.)


Oh shart!

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Jun 14, 2023 08:15:42   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
DirtFarmer wrote:
Oh shart!

Oh, feces;
excrement;
doodoo;
turd;
poopoo;...

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Jun 14, 2023 09:00:08   #
jaymatt Loc: Alexandria, Indiana
 
Robertl594 wrote:
In light of the horrible increase in mass shootings, I have made the conscious decision to no longer say that I am going to shoot, but rather going to photograph or take pictures. There is such a new negative connotation of the words “to shoot”, and rightfully so.


I am so sick of PC that I could toss my cookies. I shoot photos!

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Jun 14, 2023 09:01:39   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
jaymatt wrote:
I am so sick of PC that I could toss my cookies. I shoot photos!


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Jun 14, 2023 09:17:55   #
gtilford Loc: Woodstock, Ontario, Canada
 
I have tried for quite some time to not use the word shoot but instead I use the word capture because that is what we are doing, capturing a moment in time.

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Jun 14, 2023 09:23:24   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
gtilford wrote:
I have tried for quite some time to not use the word shoot but instead I use the word capture because that is what we are doing, capturing a moment in time.

How about "acquire"?
Capture sound so, constrictive.......

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