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White horizontal lines on image.
Jun 12, 2023 07:47:06   #
rv8striker Loc: St. Louis, MO area
 
Any ideas why there are white lines on this image? It has happened with others too but not all. Stacked image using Affinity, processed in Lightroom.


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Jun 12, 2023 08:47:06   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
rv8striker wrote:
Any ideas why there are white lines on this image? It has happened with others too but not all. Stacked image using Affinity, processed in Lightroom.


Guess, a remnant of the stacking process. Something on the sensor would be dark as it blocks light.

Is it an older digital camera? Hot Pixels perhaps. I've seen those but they crossed the entire frame in a line.

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Jun 12, 2023 09:40:03   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
rv8striker wrote:
Any ideas why there are white lines on this image? It has happened with others too but not all. Stacked image using Affinity, processed in Lightroom.


Oh, and by-the-way, it is a nice photo of a yellow rose. You can remove the line with your Affinity PP software. I know two ways I could do it with Ps, but you are using Affinity.

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Jun 12, 2023 18:07:15   #
rv8striker Loc: St. Louis, MO area
 
lamiaceae wrote:
Oh, and by-the-way, it is a nice photo of a yellow rose. You can remove the line with your Affinity PP software. I know two ways I could do it with Ps, but you are using Affinity.


Thanks for your input. I removed the lines when I first saw them but want to determine the cause.

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Jun 12, 2023 18:37:20   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
rv8striker wrote:
Thanks for your input. I removed the lines when I first saw them but want to determine the cause.


That may remain a mystery.

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Jun 13, 2023 05:42:28   #
Manglesphoto Loc: 70 miles south of St.Louis
 
rv8striker wrote:
Any ideas why there are white lines on this image? It has happened with others too but not all. Stacked image using Affinity, processed in Lightroom.


I gave had that happen when stacking but usually with stacks over 15 images. I don't have a clue as to the exact cause.

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Jun 13, 2023 10:22:31   #
sippyjug104 Loc: Missouri
 
It appears to be a "hot pixel" on the sensor. The change in DOF of the individual shots cause the pixel to appear in a different position in each of the shots and it produces the white line when they are stacked.

I can see by the ghosting around the flower how much the focus changed as the lens advanced taking shots in the stack which also leads me to believe that it is a hot pixel creating the illusion of a white line.

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Jun 14, 2023 07:21:59   #
rv8striker Loc: St. Louis, MO area
 
sippyjug104 wrote:
It appears to be a "hot pixel" on the sensor. The change in DOF of the individual shots cause the pixel to appear in a different position in each of the shots and it produces the white line when they are stacked.

I can see by the ghosting around the flower how much the focus changed as the lens advanced taking shots in the stack which also leads me to believe that it is a hot pixel creating the illusion of a white line.


Thank you Sippy. If anyone on this forum knows about stacking it would be you. So now the question is how to avoid hot pixels? I took the stack with a minimum interval between exposures to avoid any movement of the rose caused by wind. Would a longer interval help avoid the issue?

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Aug 31, 2023 23:03:36   #
JimH123 Loc: Morgan Hill, CA
 
sippyjug104 wrote:
It appears to be a "hot pixel" on the sensor. The change in DOF of the individual shots cause the pixel to appear in a different position in each of the shots and it produces the white line when they are stacked.

I can see by the ghosting around the flower how much the focus changed as the lens advanced taking shots in the stack which also leads me to believe that it is a hot pixel creating the illusion of a white line.


This is not a hot pixel. It is too wide. Do you see anything on any of the individual images that make up the stack? How many images in the stack? What SW is used to make the stack? Part of the streak is wider. This doesn't make sense.

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Aug 31, 2023 23:29:25   #
JimH123 Loc: Morgan Hill, CA
 
rv8striker wrote:
Any ideas why there are white lines on this image? It has happened with others too but not all. Stacked image using Affinity, processed in Lightroom.


I have done a lot of stacking and have never seen a problem like this. Can you look closely at the individual photos that make up the stack? Can you see anything? How many photos in the stack? And you say you have seen this before? Part of the streak is two pixels wide. And there is that funny segment that skips a few pixels.

And hot pixels are usually red, or green or blue since those are the colors of the CFA that covers the sensor.
For this to be a hot sensor, it would mean that you have taken a tremendous number of shots and that the camera or the flower was moving in a very straight line. This doesn't happen.

Can you post a couple of the individual photos that went into this stack?


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Sep 3, 2023 14:35:05   #
SalvageDiver Loc: Huntington Beach CA
 
rv8striker wrote:
Any ideas why there are white lines on this image? It has happened with others too but not all. Stacked image using Affinity, processed in Lightroom.


The first place to look is the stacking process, not sensor problems like hot pixels.

The first thing to do would be to check each individual image for that white line. If it doesn't exist in any of the individual images, you can rule out the sensor. If it is, then you can rule in the sensor as the problem. However, hot pixels are individual pixels, not a line of pixels and generally will be present in all images.

The stacking process involves, algorithmically, finding the sharpest portions of each image, creating masks blocking the unsharp part of those images and finally blending the sharp portions of each together into a single image. All it takes is for a slight misalignment error in the stacking algorithm to create an anomoly.

To check the algorithm remove one image from the stack and redo it. If it disappears, then you know the problem lies with Infinity. Another way to check, would be stack with another editor, such as photoshop.

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