Recommendations for AI restoration of old photos
Jun 8, 2023 10:43:37 #
I restore and colorize old photos. I use photoshop elements (2019) on my PC and I have an AI program that I purchased and is about to renew. Has the newest version of photoshop added an AI feature? Should I switch away from “elements” to regular pshop? Does anyone else use AI restore programs that they would recommend? Thx for any advice!
Jun 8, 2023 10:49:26 #
Yes, there are new tools in the subscription Photoshop for "Photo Restoration" and "Colorize". They are Filters menu under Neural Filters. Another is the AI "Remove Tool". There is also the very new Generative Fill in the Beta version.
Jun 8, 2023 11:02:32 #
bsprague wrote:
Yes, there are new tools in the subscription Photoshop for "Photo Restoration" and "Colorize". They are Filters menu under Neural Filters. Another is the AI "Remove Tool". There is also the very new Generative Fill in the Beta version.
Would you know if the Pshop version enhances similar to the AI ones by massively increasing pixels? ( some times you get unintended consequences)
Jun 8, 2023 11:05:32 #
doublebogey7 wrote:
Would you know if the Pshop version enhances similar to the AI ones by massively increasing pixels? ( some times you get unintended consequences)
No, I don't know that. There are several new tools that might work differently from each other. I don't know the specific Adobe rules, but there is a free trial offered.
Do you have an image I can try restoring?
Jun 8, 2023 11:13:03 #
No I don’t. I belong to a few Facebook groups who post picture for editors like me to restore for free. I do more in the colder weather when I’m not playing golf.
Jun 8, 2023 11:47:57 #
doublebogey7 wrote:
No I don’t. I belong to a few Facebook groups who post picture for editors like me to restore for free. I do more in the colder weather when I’m not playing golf.
Look for YouTubes:
New Remove Tool: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLXrzCH4sdM
Restoration: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaaILl8Zpeg
Colorize: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4r2n8KGCoM
There are a lot of videos on "Generative Fill" recently. Try this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NI2Hq6NoKFk
Jun 8, 2023 11:52:34 #
doublebogey7 wrote:
No I don’t. I belong to a few Facebook groups who post picture for editors like me to restore for free. I do more in the colder weather when I’m not playing golf.
Adobe's AI is called "Sensei," and there are varying levels of competence.
Content Aware samples pixels from the current image and tries to blend them in to make it look natural, whereas the newer tools Like Generative Fill (Photoshop beta version 24.6 only) and the Remove Tool (now available in the full release ver. 24.5) use machine learning to create entirely new content. In the case of the Generative tool, you need an active Internet connection, because the actual editing is done in the cloud.
The neural filters, where you find such things as Photo Restoration (still in beta) and Smart Portrait, Super zoom, etc. are hit and miss at best. Colorize sometimes works well, sometimes doesn't. Even when they come out of beta, these tools are still under constant development.
The various YouTube Photoshop gurus are pretty unanimous in their recommendation to keep up with your traditional Photoshop skills, because you will still need them for some time to come. Sensei is just another tool in the box.
Jun 8, 2023 13:00:19 #
bsprague wrote:
Yes, there are new tools in the subscription Photoshop for "Photo Restoration" and "Colorize". They are Filters menu under Neural Filters. Another is the AI "Remove Tool". There is also the very new Generative Fill in the Beta version.
Just a note: I tried colorize a while back when it was fairly new. It would take an image and provide some colors for it. There was no way to tell what the colors were going to be although as I recall you could force some hues if you knew what they should be. My complaint was that when it saw something that could be interpreted as foliage it got colored green. I had a number of green rocks in some images. I was rarely happy with the resulting colors. It might have been my inexperience and when I saw results that didn't make me happy I quit trying.
I have not tried colorize since, and I don't usually try to colorize things so since that was probably several updates ago the effect has likely evolved. If you try colorizing an image be sure to find out how to force the colors to be realistic.
Jun 8, 2023 16:08:37 #
DirtFarmer wrote:
Just a note: I tried colorize a while back when it... (show quote)
I have a 50 year old Tri-X negative portrait of my wife. When I had a darkroom, I made a best possible print. With Lightroom Classic and a then new Canon photo printer, I wanted to see how it compared. The scanned negative, with some Lightroom work, yielded a significantly superior B&W print.
When I read about the colorize neural filter in Photoshop, I could not resist. It nailed the hair color and skin tones as if I had shot the original 50 years ago with Kodacolor film.
I'm sure there was something in the negative that made for my good luck, but I am impressed with what "Colorize" can do.
Jun 8, 2023 17:08:56 #
bsprague wrote:
I have a 50 year old Tri-X negative portrait of my... (show quote)
Was this recently? I don't recall when I tried it but it was shortly after I noticed it was available. Good to hear that it can work well. Will have to try it again sometime (but I don't have very many monochrome digital images and my scanner is in storage until we get into a new house).
Jun 8, 2023 18:27:01 #
DirtFarmer wrote:
Was this recently? I don't recall when I tried it but it was shortly after I noticed it was available. Good to hear that it can work well. Will have to try it again sometime (but I don't have very many monochrome digital images and my scanner is in storage until we get into a new house).
Yes, the color conversion was recent. The original photo was taken 50+ years ago.
Jun 8, 2023 18:44:03 #
It sounds as if the software has improved since I first tried it.
Jun 9, 2023 05:38:46 #
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