Am I Too Old?
May 28, 2023 10:15:57 #
Sunsetpar wrote:
Hi friends. I enjoy my daily dose of Ugly Hedgeho... (show quote)
No. It's never too late to learn something new. Go for it!!
May 28, 2023 10:26:45 #
Well, I'm 91...just barely "old""! I shoot jpeg and just switched from D80 and D7100 to terrific Z50. Originally used Picasa..switched to PSE18 and 23...no problem with the basics and I'm not a techie. Did Tauck and Viking solo in my eighties.. got great pix!
Now I do monthly shoots of my rambunctious one and half year old Great-Grandson !
Think young!
Now I do monthly shoots of my rambunctious one and half year old Great-Grandson !
Think young!
May 28, 2023 10:32:47 #
Sunsetpar wrote:
Hi friends. I enjoy my daily dose of Ugly Hedgeho... (show quote)
If you can read, operate a keyboard, and think, you are not too old.
May 28, 2023 10:39:05 #
Sunsetpar wrote:
Hi friends. I enjoy my daily dose of Ugly Hedgeho... (show quote)
Tom, I am 80 and still learning! Here is my advice for what it is worth. Step 1 is getting it "right" in the camera--that means the exposure, WB, composition etc.. Step 2 is to download , rename, and cull your images to your keepers. Step 3 is to process them, as much as they may need. Step 4 it to create needed images upon export, like jpegs. Step 1-5 is back up all the time at each stage.
I use DXO PhotoLab as my main processor as it uses Control Points for most Local targeted adjustments. I have the Adobe suite on my computer but rarely use it. I do not use LR as I have no need for its catalogue. I do use Bridge and Adobe Camera Raw occasionally, but Adobe is wired differently than I and is hard for me to remember how to use. Photoshop elements may be all that you need.
Download and pick one processor that works the way your brain works. And then learn it. Make sure it accommodates any special items for your system: dual monitors? ; use of processed images on more than one computer? etc
Tim GreyLearning is another place for Adobe teaching videos.
May 28, 2023 10:39:25 #
No! As in hell no!
Age is just a number in your mind. The trick is to keeping down into your body. About when I turned 80 I began to fail at the latter and that is much more limiting than the mind. I discovered Lightroom at 70+ and purchased a license with a gift certificate from that occasion. And I am certain that the unfailing and yet malleable database that is the Library module has preserved the photographic memory of my life.
Upon reflection I would love to share with you my thoughts on this matter but this is race day on my calendar F1 now and soon Indy 500 soon. Since Indianapolis was home from birth until I was mostly done with formal education and moved away in search of who knows what I must go now.
Age is just a number in your mind. The trick is to keeping down into your body. About when I turned 80 I began to fail at the latter and that is much more limiting than the mind. I discovered Lightroom at 70+ and purchased a license with a gift certificate from that occasion. And I am certain that the unfailing and yet malleable database that is the Library module has preserved the photographic memory of my life.
Upon reflection I would love to share with you my thoughts on this matter but this is race day on my calendar F1 now and soon Indy 500 soon. Since Indianapolis was home from birth until I was mostly done with formal education and moved away in search of who knows what I must go now.
May 28, 2023 11:13:07 #
Sidwalkastronomy
Loc: New Jersey Shore
I shoot both JPEG and raw. You need raw for the most flexible options in post. Until you learn and time allows you have jpeg to look at.
Adding the jpeg file adds very little to the total storage space so no reason not to add it until you learn more
Adding the jpeg file adds very little to the total storage space so no reason not to add it until you learn more
May 28, 2023 11:28:13 #
Sunsetpar,.... too old? It's my opinion that only YOU can really know the answer to that. You've received much helpful 'shooting' advice from many so I won't go into that in-depth, but I can, from experience respond concerning the 'too old' aspect.
AGE in itself really isn't the main factor, is it? In my opinion it's the drive, incentive, desire - call it what you will, that motivates us... that's what counts. My opinion: don't try 'cramming' all you mentioned just before your Brazil trip. Don't let it preoccupy your attention so much that it can spoil what can otherwise be a fun, rewarding 'get-away' event.
If you have the facilities, go ahead and shoot both JPG and RAW, knowing that when you return home, you can THEN begin the learning process of editing. It's not something you learn in a crash-course just before a deadline.
Hopefully, you'll have plenty of time after your return to seriously get into that.
I'll be 89 years old in a few months and have been 'learning' about shooting, processing, etc. for years; the process never ends because there is always something new and interesting 'just around the bend'.
That, in itself has motivated me over the years. I enjoy 'editing' even more than shooting recently. Each person must decide his/her own interest and then go for it.
Go to Brazil and ENJOY yourself - that's the main thing! Learn editing later, based on your personal interest, but the main thing, make it FUN!
God Bless,
Papa Joe
AGE in itself really isn't the main factor, is it? In my opinion it's the drive, incentive, desire - call it what you will, that motivates us... that's what counts. My opinion: don't try 'cramming' all you mentioned just before your Brazil trip. Don't let it preoccupy your attention so much that it can spoil what can otherwise be a fun, rewarding 'get-away' event.
If you have the facilities, go ahead and shoot both JPG and RAW, knowing that when you return home, you can THEN begin the learning process of editing. It's not something you learn in a crash-course just before a deadline.
Hopefully, you'll have plenty of time after your return to seriously get into that.
I'll be 89 years old in a few months and have been 'learning' about shooting, processing, etc. for years; the process never ends because there is always something new and interesting 'just around the bend'.
That, in itself has motivated me over the years. I enjoy 'editing' even more than shooting recently. Each person must decide his/her own interest and then go for it.
Go to Brazil and ENJOY yourself - that's the main thing! Learn editing later, based on your personal interest, but the main thing, make it FUN!
God Bless,
Papa Joe
May 28, 2023 11:48:20 #
Lastcastmike wrote:
I think manual settings are too hard when things are changing fast under low light. Try auto ISO -shoot raw and JPG and try one of the noise reduction programs. I have used DXO pure raw - there are other ones. You’ll get good results. You’ll also need Lightroom. You can get a 30 day Trial with DXO - both are not inexpensive.
If you plan to use DxO Pure RAW to reduce noise in your photographs you will need to shoot RAW images because DxO will only process RAW images. And I would encourage you to try DxO Pure RAW. It is an excellent program for reducing noise. In fact, it is so good that I don't even worry about noise when I'm shooting in low light conditions. I just make sure I do whatever is needed to "get the shot" and worry about noise in post.
May 28, 2023 12:07:48 #
Sunsetpar wrote:
... Bottom line...am I too old (age 70) to learn, use, and benefit from Lightroom?...
I'm 75 and teach an annual Lightroom class at our local camera club. NO YOU ARE NEVER TOO OLD TO LEARN LIGHTROOM! In fact, once you start using Lightroom you'll find it is really quite intuitive to use.
bwa
May 28, 2023 12:22:52 #
Sunsetpar wrote:
Hi friends. I enjoy my daily dose of Ugly Hedgeho... (show quote)
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I would recommend shooting RAW+JPEG rather than just JPEG. That way you have a better chance at saving a picture if any you really want don't come out the way you want in the JPEG.
May 28, 2023 12:26:20 #
donphotog wrote:
I’m 86 and still shoot Fuji jpegs daily post processing in Lightroom 6.1. Never too old. However I would suggest you development some means of securing images during your trip to assure none are lost (e.g. laptop or portable storage device). Safe travels and enjoy
I agree be sure to download your images each night to a second storage option, your computer and/or a portable drive.
Dont leave you images and gear out in your hotel room without your presence. Use a room safe if you have one. A shooter on safari in Africa went out to dinner and left her gear and all her images on memory cards in her locked hotel room (but not in a locked safe) . She came back and all was stolen, and gone for good.
The worst of that is all the images lost, which are irreplaceable. Gear insurance is a must if you travel, but dont forget to safeguard the images, that matters more.
Cheers and best to you.
May 28, 2023 12:28:41 #
cahale
Loc: San Angelo, TX
williejoha wrote:
At 70, you are just a pub. You can handle it. There is plenty of YouTube support out there.
WJH
WJH
What drinks does he serve? As to Lightroom, you might be better off starting with Elements and using the (usually free) RAW processing software of your camera brand as the initial step.
May 28, 2023 12:43:08 #
Sidwalkastronomy
Loc: New Jersey Shore
Speaking of elements, anyone know a good u tuber for training videos
I'm sure Adobe has them but I'm not home and don't have access to my passwords
I'm sure Adobe has them but I'm not home and don't have access to my passwords
May 28, 2023 12:51:08 #
gwilliams6 wrote:
I agree be sure to download your images each night... (show quote)
One way to safeguard your images (especially if one has the JPG) is to upload to a website (ie.Smugmug) while in one's hotel room (ie. when sleeping). Most places these days have decent internet and one can upload unlimited amounts of JPG for a set fee. Then one is completely protected in case of theft.
May 28, 2023 13:06:56 #
Sunsetpar wrote:
Hi friends. I enjoy my daily dose of Ugly Hedgeho... (show quote)
No, you're not too old. Start learning Lightroom (Classic) now, but don't feel you have to master it before your trip. As someone else suggested, shoot in JPG+RAW. That way, you'll have the jpg's right away, and, when you feel your LR skills are sufficient, you can try editing those RAW files. By the way, I've never considered LR particularly hard to learn. As long as you understand how the catalog works, everything else is reversible. Photoshop, on the other hand, takes a long time to master. If, on a 1 - 10 scale, with 10 the hardest to learn, I'd say PS was a 10, and LR Classic was a 4.
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