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May 13, 2023 01:31:00   #
b top gun
 
Are European nations embracing all electric vehicles and pushing like Joe Biden is jamming this down Americans' throats? What about NASCAR and Formula One? Can you imagine the soon to be run Indy 500 having to use electric vehicles? I recall the hub bub back in the day when the gas turbine showed up and nearly won the Indy 500 by a lot had it not been for a bearing failure???

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May 13, 2023 05:38:28   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
Top Gun took a shot at E-Cars mixing apples, oranges, and rotten eggs.

Joe Biden is jamming this down Americans' throats?
Americans buying E-Cars because of incentives and because it is the modern thing... same reason I purchased my Ford Mustang convertible in 1964.

Biden is pushing the installation of charging stations to remove the reason people are reluctant to buy an E Car. Tesla leads in the design of reliable stations that will charge any brand of E Car. The long run economy of owning an E Car is attractive and is getting better with improvements and price cuts.

Did Presidents Taft and Wilson shove gasoline powered Cars down peoples throats from 1910-1914 to get rid of horses and buggies? NO! Nor is Biden shoving E Cars down American throats.

What about NASCAR and Formula One? Can you imagine the soon to be run Indy 500 having to use electric vehicles?
Really Top Gun, is this a reason to make a law to ban E Cars? How many Americans drive in NASCAR and Formula One? Times Change. Can you imagine the quake when Ford introduced the V-8 ? Sport can set their rules. We all know that E Cars would win the Pikes Peak run.

Top Gun "don't stand in the door way" as warned Nobel Poet laureate Bob Dylan who sang about... "Times Are a Changin' "

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May 13, 2023 05:51:30   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 

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May 13, 2023 06:18:26   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
dpullum wrote:
Top Gun took a shot at E-Cars mixing apples, oranges, and rotten eggs.

Joe Biden is jamming this down Americans' throats?
Americans buying E-Cars because of incentives and because it is the modern thing... same reason I purchased my Ford Mustang convertible in 1964.

Biden is pushing the installation of charging stations to remove the reason people are reluctant to buy an E Car. Tesla leads in the design of reliable stations that will charge any brand of E Car. The long run economy of owning an E Car is attractive and is getting better with improvements and price cuts.

Did Presidents Taft and Wilson shove gasoline powered Cars down peoples throats from 1910-1914 to get rid of horses and buggies? NO! Nor is Biden shoving E Cars down American throats.

What about NASCAR and Formula One? Can you imagine the soon to be run Indy 500 having to use electric vehicles?
Really Top Gun, is this a reason to make a law to ban E Cars? How many Americans drive in NASCAR and Formula One? Times Change. Can you imagine the quake when Ford introduced the V-8 ? Sport can set their rules. We all know that E Cars would win the Pikes Peak run.

Top Gun "don't stand in the door way" as warned Nobel Poet laureate Bob Dylan who sang about... "Times Are a Changin' "
Top Gun took a shot at E-Cars mixing apples, orang... (show quote)


Do away with government subsidies and incentives and people mostly won't come near an EV.
Leave it to the open market and see how they do

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May 13, 2023 06:31:43   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Do away with government subsidies and incentives and people mostly won't come near an EV.
Leave it to the open market and see how they do


Yeah, that would work really well with solar energy as well.

Dinosaurs will all eventually become extinct...

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May 13, 2023 06:53:40   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
DaveO wrote:
Yeah, that would work really well with solar energy as well.

Dinosaurs will all eventually become extinct...


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May 13, 2023 06:54:38   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
Architect1776 wrote:
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What do you not understand?

Most would not be converting their home power without subsidies.

Old thinking will eventually leave naysayers out in the cold.

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May 13, 2023 06:59:01   #
David Martin Loc: Cary, NC
 
dpullum wrote:
Did Presidents Taft and Wilson shove gasoline powered Cars down peoples throats from 1910-1914 to get rid of horses and buggies? NO!
Neither Taft nor Wilson tried to ban the use of horses and buggies, did they?
dpullum wrote:
Nor is Biden shoving E Cars down American throats.
What would you call an executive order that at least half of all new vehicles must be electric by 2030?
Other than the Executive usurping the role of the Legislature?

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May 13, 2023 07:00:58   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
More boohoohoo, lol!

The self-righteous righties use to whine about TDS and now the left can whine about their hypocrisy!

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May 13, 2023 07:40:09   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
David Martin wrote:
What would you call an executive order that at least half of all new vehicles must be electric by 2030?
Other than the Executive usurping the role of the Legislature?


That eo is a “ goal” not a “ requirement or law “

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May 13, 2023 08:39:52   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
dpullum wrote:
Top Gun took a shot at E-Cars mixing apples, oranges, and rotten eggs.

Joe Biden is jamming this down Americans' throats?
Americans buying E-Cars because of incentives and because it is the modern thing... same reason I purchased my Ford Mustang convertible in 1964.

Biden is pushing the installation of charging stations to remove the reason people are reluctant to buy an E Car. Tesla leads in the design of reliable stations that will charge any brand of E Car. The long run economy of owning an E Car is attractive and is getting better with improvements and price cuts.

Did Presidents Taft and Wilson shove gasoline powered Cars down peoples throats from 1910-1914 to get rid of horses and buggies? NO! Nor is Biden shoving E Cars down American throats.

What about NASCAR and Formula One? Can you imagine the soon to be run Indy 500 having to use electric vehicles?
Really Top Gun, is this a reason to make a law to ban E Cars? How many Americans drive in NASCAR and Formula One? Times Change. Can you imagine the quake when Ford introduced the V-8 ? Sport can set their rules. We all know that E Cars would win the Pikes Peak run.

Top Gun "don't stand in the door way" as warned Nobel Poet laureate Bob Dylan who sang about... "Times Are a Changin' "
Top Gun took a shot at E-Cars mixing apples, orang... (show quote)


D... You are so wrong.

"WASHINGTON/DETROIT, Dec 8 (Reuters) - The U.S. government plans to end purchases of gas-powered vehicles by 2035 in a move to lower emissions and promote electric cars under an executive order signed by President Joe Biden on Wednesday."

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-pledges-end-gas-powered-federal-vehicle-purchases-by-2035-2021-12-08/

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May 13, 2023 08:50:39   #
David Martin Loc: Cary, NC
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
"WASHINGTON/DETROIT, Dec 8 (Reuters) - The U.S. government plans to end purchases of gas-powered vehicles by 2035 in a move to lower emissions and promote electric cars under an executive order signed by President Joe Biden on Wednesday."

Meanwhile Biden, via the EPA, has ordered all natural gas- and coal-fueled power plants to reduce emissions by 90% between 2035 and 2040, or be closed down. (Again the Executive acting as Legislature.)
What will be the new source of electricity to power all of the EVs that Biden and his controllers envision we will have by that time?

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May 13, 2023 08:51:06   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
DennyT wrote:
That eo is a “ goal” not a “ requirement or law “


His Executive Orders are being implemented through regulations coming from the various federal agencies.

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May 13, 2023 09:45:21   #
Harry0 Loc: Gardena, Cal
 
David Martin wrote:
What would you call an executive order that at least half of all new vehicles must be electric by 2030?
Other than the Executive usurping the role of the Legislature?


That's called an "incentive". bubba.
MAYbe manufacturers will use this timetable to make quieter, efficient, less polluting vehicles.
It wasn't that long ago that "forced" diesels to install devices to cut pollution. Remember? Still gots trucks!
We keep hearing of groundwater pollution from leaking gas stations.
We just had another ahole try to cut off a tanker on the freeway. Ka Booom!!
Wouldn't be nice for Americans to have a nice quiet reliable commuter vehicle that you just plug in at night?
I remember blowby tubes aimed at the ground, black grease strips in the middle of the lanes.
I remember that living in LA,CA was like smoking over a pack a day.
I remember the sky turning from blue and clear to yellow to brown throughout the day.
Is ths the "good 'ol days" you want to go back to? Bubba?

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May 13, 2023 09:47:15   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
David Martin wrote:
Meanwhile Biden, via the EPA, has ordered all natural gas- and coal-fueled power plants to reduce emissions by 90% between 2035 and 2040, or be closed down. (Again the Executive acting as Legislature.)
What will be the new source of electricity to power all of the EVs that Biden and his controllers envision we will have by that time?


Once again the executive order is a goal not an “ order”

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2021/12/08/fact-sheet-president-biden-signs-executive-order-catalyzing-americas-clean-energy-economy-through-federal-sustainability/

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