Mirror or Mirrorless when shooting landscapes (Page 6): Well if you find a camera with EVF that can be customized to disable showing a simulation of the JPEG the camera will create...

Ysarex Loc: St. Louis

User ID wrote:

Its *ALL* about the viewfinder !!! br br The view... (show quote)

Well if you find a camera with EVF that can be customized to disable showing a simulation of the JPEG the camera will create while at the same time allowing the exposure aids (blinkies and histograms) to function as if the above feature was not disabled, and/or to be responsive directly to the raw file exposure, let me know.

JohnR Loc: The Gates of Hell

gwilliams6 wrote:

Yes there is no mirror slap shock with mirrorless,... (show quote)

Don't forget the first Sony A7 - no mirror but quite noticeable shutter slap which was a problem at low shutter speeds as it had no IBIS

Ysarex Loc: St. Louis

User ID wrote:

Beats me why you or anyone has such discussions with "the professor". The whole thing is a completely predictable waste of your time.

I didn't start it -- he objected to my comment -- I just defended myself.

Haenzel Loc: South Holland, The Netherlands

gwilliams6 wrote:

Yes pixel shift technology does allow shots with 4... (show quote)

Pentax DSLR's have been equipped with IBIS since 2008. The more modern Pentax DSLR's also have good functioning live view with focus peaking, histogram, pixel shift, astro tracing, full frame (K1) and weather sealing. All these options, to me, make Pentax the ideal landscape camera.

Bill_de Loc: US

Ysarex wrote:

I didn't start it -- he objected to my comment -- I just defended myself.

Did not, did to, did not, did to, just like a couple of two year olds who can't quit without getting the last word in.

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Ysarex Loc: St. Louis

Bill_de wrote:

Did not, did to, did not, did to, just like a couple of two year olds who can't quit without getting the last word in.

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I respond when the facts are wrong to correct error. I stop as soon as the facts are straight.

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

LOL

User ID

Ysarex wrote:

Well if you find a camera with EVF that can be customized to disable showing a simulation of the JPEG the camera will create while at the same time allowing the exposure aids (blinkies and histograms) to function as if the above feature was not disabled, and/or to be responsive directly to the raw file exposure, let me know.

Not that I personally would choose your set up, but just to see what happens, I tried the following menu combination:
• Constant viewing brightness (no visual preview of jpeg brightness)
• Blinkies enabled
• Zebra patterns enabled
• Histogram enabled

It seems that the zebras supplant the blinkies, cant have both. The viewing brightness is constant, does NOT show the resulting jpeg brightness. And the histogram is in the viewfinder. If I read you correctly, this is what you want.

Unfortunately, the camera is a GH6, probably not what youd want. Its not what many MANY users want for stills.
OTOH, it suggests that what you want might really be out there somewhere.

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Manufacturer marketing material never offer that level of detail. Camera review gurus just rehash the marketing points and measure "performance". You would hafta start a thread asking the great unwashed to see whether their gear delivers what you want. Rotsa ruck :-(

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

User ID wrote:

Not that I personally would choose your set up, bu... (show quote)

Would you make a final decision based on a camera's LCD? In variable light? On a JPEG preview?

One would think our more knowledgeable UHH community members, certainly the more verbose contributors, would shoot in RAW and save the detailed analysis to a controlled environment using a screen that more closely matches and presents the full glory of the pixel resolution of a modern digital camera, something in the 2x3 feet size, rather than the 2x3 inches, or less, of a camera LCD monitor or the eye-held viewfinder.

Ysarex Loc: St. Louis

User ID wrote:

Not that I personally would choose your set up, but just to see what happens, I tried the following menu combination:
• Constant viewing brightness (no visual preview of jpeg brightness)
• Blinkies enabled
• Zebra patterns enabled

It seems that the zebras supplant the blinkies, cant have both. The viewing brightness is constant, does NOT show the resulting jpeg brightness. If I read you correctly, this is what you want.

It's part of what I would want and I can do the same with my Fujis except that the blinkies (although they seem to work) become wildly inaccurate and are useless. I like the highlight clipping warning function and rely on it. In all of my cameras I can't retain that function and at the same time disable the EVF simulation of the JPEG exposure. I'm keeping the cameras and I can make do but it would be nice to be able to see what I'm photographing without having to see at the same time what the camera maker thinks their JPEG will look like.

User ID

CHG_CANON wrote:

Would you make a final decision based on a camera'... (show quote)

Hard to tell what your talking about ... but I pay minimal attention to our grandiose most verbose entertainers.

They are of no use to me, but many among the great unwashed do seem waaaaaay too easily snowed by such verbose pontification and posturing.

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User ID

Ysarex wrote:

It's part of what I would want and I can do the sa... (show quote)

Same weirdness plagues my Z Nikons. To have a histogram in the viewfinder I hafta enable full time Exposure Effect Preview.

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

User ID wrote:

Hard to tell what your talking about ... but I pay minimal attention to our grandiose most verbose entertainers.

They are of no use to me, but many among the great unwashed do seem waaaaaay too easily snowed by such verbose pontification and posturing.

The longer the post, the less likely I'll even scan the content. There's a group of member IDs I don't bother to read at all. Anyone sighting credentials or posting images of their equipment, I just add to both my UHH ignore list and my mental do-not-read scan list.

Basil Loc: New Mexico

CHG_CANON wrote:

The longer the post, the less likely I'll even scan the content. There's a group of member IDs I don't bother to read at all.

There are a few malcontent, rude people I simply try to ignore altogether.

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

Basil wrote:

There are a few malcontent, rude people I simply try to ignore altogether.

Welcome to the club!!