AI and Automatic Cameras
Apr 2, 2023 12:45:38 #
larryepage wrote:
There is another discussion going on here concerning the best book to learn how to use a D850.
I have come to see that the biggest problem in photography is that people buy a camera expecting it to make them to immediately make them an expert photographer. Very few are willing or have the mindset to approach the process incrementally...learning "how" in a logical sequence that also allows for making interesting pictures along the way.
I have come to see that the biggest problem in photography is that people buy a camera expecting it to make them to immediately make them an expert photographer. Very few are willing or have the mindset to approach the process incrementally...learning "how" in a logical sequence that also allows for making interesting pictures along the way.
I love how Larry gets to speak for most people and their mindset. Almost god like!
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Apr 2, 2023 12:54:58 #
larryepage
Loc: North Texas area
Bill_de wrote:
I love how Larry gets to speak for most people. Almost god like!
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Just based on my observations and experiences. No claims beyond that. Ever. Also no comment around what it might mean if my statements happen to ring a bell with you.
Apr 2, 2023 16:13:57 #
AI, don't know yet where it is leading, but, at least. Wait, why go to Photography School if the camera has already been there.
Will no one be able to say they are professionals?
Will no one be able to say they are professionals?
Apr 2, 2023 16:19:39 #
plumbbob1 wrote:
AI, don't know yet where it is leading, but, at least. Wait, why go to Photography School if the camera has already been there.
Will no one be able to say they are professionals?
Will no one be able to say they are professionals?
Yes if the AI can do everything that would be a boon for the pros because now they can have their job done without doing anything. Just need to collect the fee. You are the real professional if you own a machine that can do the job for you. The clients pay for the results not your effort. It's only bad for the amateur which have nothing to do so it would be extremely boring taking photography as a hobby.
Apr 2, 2023 16:44:17 #
BebuLamar wrote:
Yes if the AI can do everything that would be a boon for the pros because now they can have their job done without doing anything. Just need to collect the fee. You are the real professional if you own a machine that can do the job for you. The clients pay for the results not your effort. It's only bad for the amateur which have nothing to do so it would be extremely boring taking photography as a hobby.
No, the people who built the AI system would collect the fee - ‘professional photographer’ species will become extinct.
Apr 2, 2023 16:48:26 #
Apr 2, 2023 16:52:36 #
rehess wrote:
No, the people who built the AI system would collect the fee - ‘professional photographer’ species will become extinct.
It depends. If the AI people only made it available as per subscription then perhaps so. Otherwise if you own the camera you collect the fee. If you own the camera it's like you have your own slave. The slaves do the work you collect the money. People already treat their cameras as slaves. The claim 100% credit for all of the images and give none to the camera. They keeps saying it's the 6 inch behind the camera but in fact the camera took the pictures. Cameras however can't fight back but perhaps the AI based cameras can. Well I don't want to know what will be next. Perhaps the camera will direct the photographers to do what it deems as creatively correct then it will collect the money in crypto. The photographers will be slaves to the cameras.
Apr 2, 2023 17:29:41 #
larryepage
Loc: North Texas area
BebuLamar wrote:
It depends. If the AI people only made it availabl... (show quote)
If it's only available by subscription, a large portion of the group here won't buy in.
Apr 2, 2023 17:57:20 #
larryepage wrote:
If it's only available by subscription, a large portion of the group here won't buy in.
I don't know. A lot of people here subcribe to the Adobe software as someone said programmers got to eat.
Apr 2, 2023 18:02:53 #
davidrb wrote:
Can it be made any easier? But, some on here will bitch about having to "DO" something. Someone still had to "push the button."
I don't mind pushing the button, I want AI to tell me when to push the button. A message something like "hey you idiot take the picture now. I will make it look even better when you download it onto your computer".
Apr 2, 2023 18:04:28 #
larryepage wrote:
It only seems like a "large portion." If you start tracking names, you'll find it's just the same small handful saying the same thing over and over.If it's only available by subscription, a large portion of the group here won't buy in.
Apr 2, 2023 23:52:42 #
Linda From Maine wrote:
It only seems like a "large portion." If you start tracking names, you'll find it's just the same small handful saying the same thing over and over.
Bravo Zulu Linda!
Apr 3, 2023 12:09:29 #
Is it not amazing that cameras and photography have gone from 100% manual to almost 99.99% auto and most of us still cannot shoot an acceptable image. Maybe these AI guys are on to something!
Apr 3, 2023 13:15:35 #
dpullum wrote:
...so as to take advantage of the smart oriental embedded in their cameras...
I guess I can't do that with a Leica :-)
Apr 3, 2023 13:46:30 #
Red6 wrote:
Is it not amazing that cameras and photography have gone from 100% manual to almost 99.99% auto and most of us still cannot shoot an acceptable image. Maybe these AI guys are on to something!
Sorry to hear that you cannot shoot an acceptable image. Maybe you should spend less time on UHH just talking about it, and more time behind the lens.
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