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Nov 13, 2012 13:20:53   #
cony25
 
I used a soft box on top of my camera, and her neck came out green, no flash, what happened? I also used a continuos light umbrella to the side, no mounted flash on my camera. What did I do wrong?





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Nov 13, 2012 13:39:41   #
Nikonian72 Loc: Chico CA
 
Your entire image is color-shifted. I see slight green in the hair highlights as well. Post same image, but this time check the box labeled "(store original)", so we can enlarge for a little Processing assist.

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Nov 13, 2012 13:48:25   #
CaptainC Loc: Colorado, south of Denver
 
Hard to say, but it looks like it could be reflection from something below her or maybe picking up a color from her clothing. Maybe just shadow.

It is not really green - more brown. The RGB is 87, 70, 50

And Nikonian is right - there is definitely a color shift going on here.

I was able to correct it using NIK Viveza - something every serious photographer should have.

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Nov 13, 2012 13:59:22   #
cony25
 
Ok, I added the original....she was wearing jeans,,,and she was sitting on a brown sheet that was on top of a chair....
CaptainC wrote:
Hard to say, but it looks like it could be reflection from something below her or maybe picking up a color from her clothing. Maybe just shadow.

It is not really green - more brown. The RGB is 87, 70, 50

And Nikonian is right - there is definitely a color shift going on here.

I was able to correct it using NIK Viveza - something every serious photographer should have.

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Nov 13, 2012 14:00:58   #
cony25
 
ok, so why is a color shifiting going on here? How can I prevent this from happening? Should I put an mbrella to light up from below?
CaptainC wrote:
Hard to say, but it looks like it could be reflection from something below her or maybe picking up a color from her clothing. Maybe just shadow.

It is not really green - more brown. The RGB is 87, 70, 50

And Nikonian is right - there is definitely a color shift going on here.

I was able to correct it using NIK Viveza - something every serious photographer should have.

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Nov 13, 2012 14:26:31   #
Nikonian72 Loc: Chico CA
 
My tweak: just added a little "color temperature" increase. This may e a bit too much.

I do not use PhotoShop, which may have better overall color corrections.



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Nov 13, 2012 14:59:01   #
Brendan Loc: Cornwall
 
i can notice 2 light sources in the left eye, maybe a problem here?

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Nov 13, 2012 15:21:44   #
CaptainC Loc: Colorado, south of Denver
 
After looking at this image a second time, I think it looks less like just a color cast and more like mixed color temps. I just re-read your original post. You said a softbox on top of the camera, but then you said no flash on the camera - and then a continuous light off to the side??

This is confusing. What kind of light is "on top of the camera?"

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Nov 13, 2012 16:31:22   #
PalePictures Loc: Traveling
 
10 to 1 odds the lady is diabetic. Discoloration under the neck occurs quite often for diabetes. Many times people don't really notice but the people who have the condition are aware. I would just correct it with an adjustment layer and a mask. Her face does look little more yellow on camera left indicative of a light temperature mismatch.

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Nov 13, 2012 16:46:00   #
lightchime Loc: Somewhere Over The Rainbow
 
PalePictures wrote:
10 to 1 odds the lady is diabetic. Discoloration under the neck occurs quite often for diabetes. Many times people don't really notice but the people who have the condition are aware. I would just correct it with an adjustment layer and a mask. Her face does look little more yellow on camera left indicative of a light temperature mismatch.



I am curious as to your source of this information. Discoloration of the neck is usually acanthosis nigrans and I have never heard that as being green.

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Nov 13, 2012 17:00:54   #
PalePictures Loc: Traveling
 
lightchime wrote:
PalePictures wrote:
10 to 1 odds the lady is diabetic. Discoloration under the neck occurs quite often for diabetes. Many times people don't really notice but the people who have the condition are aware. I would just correct it with an adjustment layer and a mask. Her face does look little more yellow on camera left indicative of a light temperature mismatch.



I am curious as to your source of this information. Discoloration of the neck is usually acanthosis nigrans and I have never heard that as being green.
quote=PalePictures 10 to 1 odds the lady is diabe... (show quote)


I am not a doctor. That's what a lady told me 6 months ago that had a similar condition. I was shooting tethered or I wouldn't have known. I would bet the color under the neck is not green. That's probably due to a color shift. What's the opposite color of green?

Google top 10 reasons for dicolorization of neck. You will find diabetes listed as well as the condition you listed.
As the captain said its more brown.
I would guess the shift in color appears the way it does because of the color temperature mismatch of the lighting sources.

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Nov 13, 2012 18:08:14   #
PalePictures Loc: Traveling
 
I just played around with the image.

The following adjustments to the image will correct under the chin non-destructively in PS.

1) Create a new blank layer
2) sample the color of the skin below the neck. (Make sure you set your sample area to 11x11 pixels or more)
3) Set the layer blend mode to Color.
4) Paint with a brush set at 8-10 percent opacity and build up the color.

Done.

To correct the yellow tint to the face to camera left , I used a combination of Hue/Saturation adjustment. With a levels adjustments bringing up the blue(opposite of yellow). Paint on the mask layer with a 8-10 percent opacity.

Its always better not to have to do this in PS.

The picture is not to shabby by the way.
The hand under the chin would look better if it wasn't so stiff.
I typically have been removing hands around faces but the good news is its posed from the correct perspective.(on edge)
I would get rid of the chair with a content aware fill. It adds nothing.

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Nov 13, 2012 18:36:18   #
sfreund Loc: Indianapolis
 
just did a quick look but I agree with CaptainC. Looks to me like the two lights used are not same color balance. Yes things can be fixed but real fix is to balance the lights and reshoot.

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Nov 13, 2012 19:36:13   #
cony25
 
The light on top of my camera is a soft box...and the one to the side is an umbrella giving continuos light with a energy saver light bulb...I do believe that the light are not exaclty equal,,,but how would I know if its equal or not,,, I only have a light meter. I did not have a mounted flash on my camera...hope this helps to determine why the green neck
CaptainC wrote:
After looking at this image a second time, I think it looks less like just a color cast and more like mixed color temps. I just re-read your original post. You said a softbox on top of the camera, but then you said no flash on the camera - and then a continuous light off to the side??

This is confusing. What kind of light is "on top of the camera?"

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Nov 13, 2012 19:38:29   #
cony25
 
Her neck was not green, I did notice that,,, I have other pictures in different poses and her neck is not green
PalePictures wrote:
lightchime wrote:
PalePictures wrote:
10 to 1 odds the lady is diabetic. Discoloration under the neck occurs quite often for diabetes. Many times people don't really notice but the people who have the condition are aware. I would just correct it with an adjustment layer and a mask. Her face does look little more yellow on camera left indicative of a light temperature mismatch.



I am curious as to your source of this information. Discoloration of the neck is usually acanthosis nigrans and I have never heard that as being green.
quote=PalePictures 10 to 1 odds the lady is diabe... (show quote)


I am not a doctor. That's what a lady told me 6 months ago that had a similar condition. I was shooting tethered or I wouldn't have known. I would bet the color under the neck is not green. That's probably due to a color shift. What's the opposite color of green?

Google top 10 reasons for dicolorization of neck. You will find diabetes listed as well as the condition you listed.
As the captain said its more brown.
I would guess the shift in color appears the way it does because of the color temperature mismatch of the lighting sources.
quote=lightchime quote=PalePictures 10 to 1 odds... (show quote)

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