Wyantry Loc: SW Colorado

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No “Conservatives/Republicans” or “Liberals/Democrats”. No Left or Right.
All “goodness-and-light”

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Wyantry Loc: SW Colorado

Oh YES!
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Wyantry Loc: SW Colorado

“Murdered” is an inaccurate term to use for describing ACCIDENTS.

In case you are/were not aware, space exploration/ exploitation is DANGEROUS.
Environmental conditions off-planet are inimical to humans.
Sending paid volunteers into a hazardous off-world place while knowing the dangers and chances of accidents and/or death does not rise to the level of “murder” when or if something goes wrong.(*)

“As of 2020, there have been 15 astronaut and 4 cosmonaut fatalities during spaceflight that either crossed, or clearly was intended to cross, the boundary of space as defined by the United States (50 miles above sea level).”
[ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_spaceflight-related_accidents_and_incidents#: ]


Similarly, exploration under water is dangerous — and many more people die of drowning. Which “government agency” do we blame for drowning deaths?

“There are an estimated 320,000 annual drowning deaths worldwide. Drowning is the third leading cause of unintentional injury death worldwide, accounting for seven percent of all injury-related deaths.”
[https://www.stopdrowningnow.org/drowning-statistics/# ]

(*) Some of the engineering problems (e.g. Pure oxygen breathing in capsule leading to fire—if a different atmosphere, then no consuming fire. Or O-rings failures on rockets which would have been preventable if some more consideration had been made about potential fires or water encroachment and elastomeric rebound under freezing conditions. If the connecting joints had been reversed, water could never have entered into the joint. Therefore no failure.)
But this was not “murder” — just incompetence.

The Aardvark Is Ready

Wow, thanks for cluing me in on the fact that space exploration is dangerous. I did not know that. And I'm not talking about the Command Module fire in which 3 astronauts perished. That WAS an accident.
The o ring failures and the consequences of them were known issues. NASA was warned not to launch by the techs at Thiokol and did it anyway. And 7 astronauts died. That is murder.
And the issues with insulation breaking away from the main fuel tank was also a well known issue which NASA ignored and the Columbia astronauts died as a result of NASA's malfeasance.
And I am a huge space exploration and NASA fan. I remember the glory days of Apollo 13.

Wyantry Loc: SW Colorado

Call it malfeasance. Call it stupidity. Call it hubris. Call it money-grubbing-politics. Call it career enhancement.

If you are going to allege “murder-most-foul”, you need to get the legal investigation rolling and hold the persons responsible accountable. Find a DA or Federal Prosecutor and make your case.

Good Effin’ luck with that !

The Aardvark Is Ready

I totally understand that it does not meet the legal definition of murder, it's just my opinion.

JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.

Opinions are like... well, you know the rest. I think "murder" was a bad over-the-top call.

The Aardvark Is Ready

How about criminally negligent homicide?

anotherview Loc: California

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