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Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

Here is where there is debate on AI.
I believe it goes back to before AI term became popular.
Things like swapping out skies to create a fake photo and such.
It has now grown far beyond that and here is one of the results of this problem.
The link below shows the photos generated.

"A Photographer Who Found Instagram Fame for His Striking Portraits Has Confessed His Images Were Actually A.I.-Generated
Jos Avery previously insisted his photos were taken with a Nikon D810
As the followers of Jos Avery’s Instagram account continued to increase so did his guilt.
His @averyseasonart account largely features black-and-white portraits of sharp facial features and blurred backgrounds. Oftentimes, Avery provided the subject’s name and a cutesy anecdote about their life, such as Lucy, “a strong woman from the Bronx,” or Jared, a Boston photographer,
The problem, one Avery struggled to disclose to his 28,000 followers, was that he was creating the images using Midjourney, an A.I. image generator. Avery made the images by entering a text prompt into Midjourney and then fine-tuning them using Photoshop.
Avery describes the work as “A.I-generated, human-finished portraits” and though the process of imitating photorealism is doubtless laborious, among the myriad hashtags that accompanied each image, not one mentioned A.I. art or generative art. A further issue stemmed from Avery having previously denied that the images were A.I.-generated and were, in fact, taken on a Nikon D810.
The popularity of the images, which he began posting on Instagram in October 2022, had wildly exceeded his expectations, creating an uneasiness that led him to contact Ars Technica, a technology publication. “Probably 95 percent-plus of the followers don’t realize [the images are A.I.-generated],” he told Ars Technica, “I’d like to come clean.”
The online response was varied with some criticizing Avery’s dishonesty and others acknowledging the quality of the work.
“Don’t call yourself a photographer, or an artist. All you’ve done is stolen from actual artists,” Ron Drynan wrote on Instagram, “You’re a prompter that finally grew some semblance of a conscience, nothing more.”"

Richard Whiddington, February 24, 2023

https://news.artnet.com/art-world/fake-instagram-photography-ai-generated-joe-avery-2260674

StanMac Loc: Tennessee

If the examples given in the linked article are typical of the man’s work in AI, and regardless of the different faces he conjures through his AI prompts, his images all have a sameness about them that would become boring after a bit. The same for the stories he’s concocted. Just my opinion.

Stan

Iron Sight Loc: Utah

Doesnt AI start when you 1st look through the viewfinder?

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

Iron Sight wrote:

Doesnt AI start when you 1st look through the viewfinder?

No

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

StanMac wrote:

If the examples given in the linked article are typical of the man’s work in AI, and regardless of the different faces he conjures through his AI prompts, his images all have a sameness about them that would become boring after a bit. The same for the stories he’s concocted. Just my opinion.

Stan

Obviously not to others.

Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.

Iron Sight wrote:

Doesnt AI start when you 1st look through the viewfinder?

Maybe for you, but not for everyone.

PhotogHobbyist Loc: Bradford, PA

StanMac wrote:

If the examples given in the linked article are typical of the man’s work in AI, and regardless of the different faces he conjures through his AI prompts, his images all have a sameness about them that would become boring after a bit. The same for the stories he’s concocted. Just my opinion.

Stan

Right you are. The pictures/ illustrations I daw in the article appear to be very similarly posed, simple head shots reminiscent of school yearbook photos. Not what I would call unique and certainly not showing any variation in the location or environmental surroundings. Too much sameness.

lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA

Architect1776 wrote:

Here is where there is debate on AI.
I believe it goes back to before AI term became popular.
Things like swapping out skies to create a fake photo and such.
It has now grown far beyond that and here is one of the results of this problem.
The link below shows the photos generated.

"A Photographer Who Found Instagram Fame for His Striking Portraits Has Confessed His Images Were Actually A.I.-Generated
Jos Avery previously insisted his photos were taken with a Nikon D810
As the followers of Jos Avery’s Instagram account continued to increase so did his guilt.
His @averyseasonart account largely features black-and-white portraits of sharp facial features and blurred backgrounds. Oftentimes, Avery provided the subject’s name and a cutesy anecdote about their life, such as Lucy, “a strong woman from the Bronx,” or Jared, a Boston photographer,
The problem, one Avery struggled to disclose to his 28,000 followers, was that he was creating the images using Midjourney, an A.I. image generator. Avery made the images by entering a text prompt into Midjourney and then fine-tuning them using Photoshop.
Avery describes the work as “A.I-generated, human-finished portraits” and though the process of imitating photorealism is doubtless laborious, among the myriad hashtags that accompanied each image, not one mentioned A.I. art or generative art. A further issue stemmed from Avery having previously denied that the images were A.I.-generated and were, in fact, taken on a Nikon D810.
The popularity of the images, which he began posting on Instagram in October 2022, had wildly exceeded his expectations, creating an uneasiness that led him to contact Ars Technica, a technology publication. “Probably 95 percent-plus of the followers don’t realize [the images are A.I.-generated],” he told Ars Technica, “I’d like to come clean.”
The online response was varied with some criticizing Avery’s dishonesty and others acknowledging the quality of the work.
“Don’t call yourself a photographer, or an artist. All you’ve done is stolen from actual artists,” Ron Drynan wrote on Instagram, “You’re a prompter that finally grew some semblance of a conscience, nothing more.”"

Richard Whiddington, February 24, 2023

https://news.artnet.com/art-world/fake-instagram-photography-ai-generated-joe-avery-2260674

Here is where there is debate on AI. br I believe ... (show quote)

What is so special about the photographer's images? All I see is he knows how to control depth of field (f-stops), something I learned when I started shooting film in 1977. These days I could more easily get the same effect by making a focus stack with just a few layers. They are human faces, not fleas. Not AI needed, just knowledge and/or PP.

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

PhotogHobbyist wrote:

Right you are. The pictures/ illustrations I daw in the article appear to be very similarly posed, simple head shots reminiscent of school yearbook photos. Not what I would call unique and certainly not showing any variation in the location or environmental surroundings. Too much sameness.

All were taken with the D810 and no one ever questioned it.
I bet if the article was not with the photos you would not question them having been taken with D810 and likely praised them.
I should have posted the photos then the article.

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

lamiaceae wrote:

What is so special about the photographer's images? All I see is he knows how to control depth of field (f-stops), something I learned when I started shooting film in 1977. These days I could more easily get the same effect by making a focus stack with just a few layers. They are human faces, not fleas. Not AI needed, just knowledge and/or PP.

Obviously many were impressed.
I should have posted them and said they were taken with a D810 and listen to the praises then posted the article.

lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA

Architect1776 wrote:

Obviously many were impressed.
I should have posted them and said they were taken with a D810 and listen to the praises then posted the article.

They still would not impress me, they are not that good or special. The camera model has nothing to do with it. Knowing how to use lighting, composition, and the lens is what is important. No sense arguing.

rlv567 Loc: Baguio City, Philippines

Architect1776 wrote:

Here is where there is debate on AI.
I believe it goes back to before AI term became popular.
Things like swapping out skies to create a fake photo and such.
It has now grown far beyond that and here is one of the results of this problem.
The link below shows the photos generated.

"A Photographer Who Found Instagram Fame for His Striking Portraits Has Confessed His Images Were Actually A.I.-Generated
Jos Avery previously insisted his photos were taken with a Nikon D810
As the followers of Jos Avery’s Instagram account continued to increase so did his guilt.
His @averyseasonart account largely features black-and-white portraits of sharp facial features and blurred backgrounds. Oftentimes, Avery provided the subject’s name and a cutesy anecdote about their life, such as Lucy, “a strong woman from the Bronx,” or Jared, a Boston photographer,
The problem, one Avery struggled to disclose to his 28,000 followers, was that he was creating the images using Midjourney, an A.I. image generator. Avery made the images by entering a text prompt into Midjourney and then fine-tuning them using Photoshop.
Avery describes the work as “A.I-generated, human-finished portraits” and though the process of imitating photorealism is doubtless laborious, among the myriad hashtags that accompanied each image, not one mentioned A.I. art or generative art. A further issue stemmed from Avery having previously denied that the images were A.I.-generated and were, in fact, taken on a Nikon D810.
The popularity of the images, which he began posting on Instagram in October 2022, had wildly exceeded his expectations, creating an uneasiness that led him to contact Ars Technica, a technology publication. “Probably 95 percent-plus of the followers don’t realize [the images are A.I.-generated],” he told Ars Technica, “I’d like to come clean.”
The online response was varied with some criticizing Avery’s dishonesty and others acknowledging the quality of the work.
“Don’t call yourself a photographer, or an artist. All you’ve done is stolen from actual artists,” Ron Drynan wrote on Instagram, “You’re a prompter that finally grew some semblance of a conscience, nothing more.”"

Richard Whiddington, February 24, 2023

https://news.artnet.com/art-world/fake-instagram-photography-ai-generated-joe-avery-2260674

Here is where there is debate on AI. br I believe ... (show quote)

Swapping skies is not AI - unless you have asked an AI program to do the swapping!!! (and told it what you want it to do.)

Loren - in Beautiful Baguio City

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

rlv567 wrote:

Swapping skies is not AI - unless you have asked an AI program to do the swapping!!! (and told it what you want it to do.)

Loren - in Beautiful Baguio City

Geee that sounds like AI.
the program swaps the skies does it not?

JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco

Architect1776 wrote:

Geee that sounds like AI.
the program swaps the skies does it not?

Photographers have been swapping skies since the very beginnings of photography. It's just much easier now with digital photography. But it can still be done on the computer without the aid of AI.

lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA

JohnSwanda wrote:

Photographers have been swapping skies since the very beginnings of photography. It's just much easier now with digital photography. But it can still be done on the computer without the aid of AI.