AI image fools judges and wins photography competition. What do you think about AI-only generated images ?
Feb 12, 2023 22:11:08 #
JohnSwanda wrote:
That depends on whether it is using those actual photographs and making a composite of them, or whether it is creating new images based on the look of the photographs.
Neither and both
Feb 12, 2023 22:17:01 #
I just ask this question to ChatGPT AI and am moderately amazed by the answer:
Me: How can we achieve world peace?
AI: Achieving world peace is a complex and multifaceted goal that requires the efforts of individuals, communities, and nations. Here are some ways that can contribute to the achievement of world peace:
Promote Understanding and Tolerance: Encouraging people to understand and respect each other's cultures, beliefs, and values is crucial in reducing conflicts and promoting peace.
Address Inequalities: Addressing economic, social, and political inequalities can help reduce tensions and conflicts, as these can be root causes of violence and unrest.
Encourage Diplomacy: Diplomacy and negotiations are important tools for resolving conflicts and promoting peace. Encouraging nations to engage in diplomatic efforts and to seek peaceful solutions to conflicts can help reduce the likelihood of war.
Promote Education: Education can play a crucial role in promoting peace by teaching individuals about human rights, conflict resolution, and cooperation.
Support International Organizations: International organizations, such as the United Nations, play a crucial role in promoting peace and stability. Supporting these organizations and their efforts can help prevent and resolve conflicts.
Address the Root Causes of Conflict: It is important to address the root causes of conflicts, such as poverty, discrimination, and political oppression, in order to create a more stable and peaceful world.
Foster Community Building: Building strong and resilient communities can help prevent conflicts and promote peace by providing individuals with a sense of belonging and by encouraging cooperation and collaboration.
Remember, achieving world peace is a gradual and ongoing process that requires the sustained efforts of people from all walks of life.
Me: How can we achieve world peace?
AI: Achieving world peace is a complex and multifaceted goal that requires the efforts of individuals, communities, and nations. Here are some ways that can contribute to the achievement of world peace:
Promote Understanding and Tolerance: Encouraging people to understand and respect each other's cultures, beliefs, and values is crucial in reducing conflicts and promoting peace.
Address Inequalities: Addressing economic, social, and political inequalities can help reduce tensions and conflicts, as these can be root causes of violence and unrest.
Encourage Diplomacy: Diplomacy and negotiations are important tools for resolving conflicts and promoting peace. Encouraging nations to engage in diplomatic efforts and to seek peaceful solutions to conflicts can help reduce the likelihood of war.
Promote Education: Education can play a crucial role in promoting peace by teaching individuals about human rights, conflict resolution, and cooperation.
Support International Organizations: International organizations, such as the United Nations, play a crucial role in promoting peace and stability. Supporting these organizations and their efforts can help prevent and resolve conflicts.
Address the Root Causes of Conflict: It is important to address the root causes of conflicts, such as poverty, discrimination, and political oppression, in order to create a more stable and peaceful world.
Foster Community Building: Building strong and resilient communities can help prevent conflicts and promote peace by providing individuals with a sense of belonging and by encouraging cooperation and collaboration.
Remember, achieving world peace is a gradual and ongoing process that requires the sustained efforts of people from all walks of life.
Feb 12, 2023 22:17:37 #
delder
Loc: Maryland
jlg1000 wrote:
Yes it does... It is called Antagonistic Neural Ne... (show quote)
YES, we have crossed a line here. It is a new world where machines can actually think & feel.
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Feb 12, 2023 22:37:14 #
jcboy3 wrote:
AI images are digital art, not photographs. Since... (show quote)
I don't think we have to worry. Every contest or photo submission I've ever been involved with require submission of the raw file.
Feb 12, 2023 22:38:59 #
The Aardvark Is Ready wrote:
I don't think we have to worry. Every contest or photo submission I've ever been involved with require submission of the raw file.
AI can create the RAW file, or any file for that matter.
It is not about photo contests... It's about who rules Earth.
Feb 12, 2023 23:18:21 #
gwilliams6 wrote:
Anything goes in art, any medium, any alterations,... (show quote)
Photojournalist contests do require an original image, but often they only require a JPEG original, which means you have already opened your raw file and made some simple adjustments before saving it as a JPEG, so they could still get cheaters. Also, they don't always check the original you send, they just check if they have questions about a photo. I know that because of entering those contests. You are correct about the ethical standards though, and changing reality can get you fired.
Feb 12, 2023 23:50:46 #
As far as I am concerned it's art but not a photograph. I guess it's all in the interruption.
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Feb 13, 2023 00:01:50 #
User ID wrote:
It doesnt look fake, just possibly quite a bit overly enhanced. Yes, more "I" would help, both on the machine side and the human side. But its an intriguing photo composite work, a finished image in its own right.
It looks 100% fake - because it is. I don't think you would be able to find that color combination anywhere in nature - but even moreso: the sea state and the surf break do not match at all
Feb 13, 2023 03:09:00 #
RodeoMan
Loc: St Joseph, Missouri
This is an interesting and society wide, an important one I think. What if we moved the discussion to the written word? Would an AI created piece of writing be eligible for the National Book Award, the Pulitzer or perhaps even the Nobel Prize in Literature?
Feb 13, 2023 03:37:46 #
jcboy3 wrote:
And what makes you think it'a a photo composite? What makes you think it has anything to do with photography?
I never said that I "think" that its a photo composite. That is categorically what it is.
Feb 13, 2023 03:41:46 #
jlg1000 wrote:
In a very twisted way, it *is* photography
The AI was fed with millions of real photos taken by real people and then asked to make an abstraction of them.
So the origin was light, after all.
The AI was fed with millions of real photos taken by real people and then asked to make an abstraction of them.
So the origin was light, after all.
Very twisted is a verrry positive attribute.
Those who may be uncomfortable with "twisted" can always hang out at the UHH Gallery amidst the butterflys and sunsets.
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Feb 13, 2023 03:56:49 #
ChristianHJensen wrote:
It looks 100% fake - because it is. I don't think you would be able to find that color combination anywhere in nature - but even moreso: the sea state and the surf break do not match at all
Imagination Deficit Disorder is endemic throughout UHH. Colors of Nature ? Color is not an attribute of nature. What we call color is just viewer conditioning. Theres no "there" there. "Sea State" ??!?!? Just your personal projection. Acoarst youre most welcome to see whatever you may choose to see (see erotic image below).
Feb 13, 2023 04:15:40 #
gwilliams6 wrote:
AI image fools judges and wins photography competi... (show quote)
Visually, the image looks great. A closer look easily tell this is an impossible photo.
As a person versed in compositing there are too many tell tale signs that this image is a composite and not done well if aiming for realism.
How the judges missed them, I do not know, but they are really hard not to notice.
1. Comparing W1 & W2, we can see that these are 2 different perspective with 2 different vanishing points and the
2. size of the waves would not produce the breaking wave at L3, W3 & L2.
3. the angle of the wave will not produce the angle of the big breaking wave
4. The angle of the wave produced by W1 & W2 would reverse the effect of the breaking wave between W3 & L2. It will be higher there, not dipping.
5. L2 should be the the same color as L3, because red light filtered by blue will produce darkness.
6. There is missing barriers in MB2 & MB3. S2 & S3 wave will not happen without those barriers.
7. L4 light direction & Shadow do not match the lightsource
8. Direct lighting at MB1, L4 & S3 means reflection at L1 can not happen.
9. W1 & W2 wave tops should also have highlights & direct lighting
10 W2 waves are calmer than W1 and are blowing in tangent.
11. Suspicious waterline at MW1 & MW2
Feb 13, 2023 06:58:58 #
jlg1000 wrote:
Yes it does... It is called Antagonistic Neural Ne... (show quote)
NO, It is NOT what we are... We have a soul which enables self aware consciousness.... Just MHO... NO debate !
Feb 13, 2023 07:24:04 #
gwilliams6 wrote:
AI image fools judges and wins photography competi... (show quote)
IMO There is NO PLACE for IA IN THE WORLD OF PHOTOGRAPHY. From a photographer's point of view IA is an abomination. How can digital manipulation possibly be included as a photographic tool?
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