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Feb 6, 2023 08:00:23   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Someone posted on the Honda Fit forum that he has a cracked oil pan. The dealer said it will cost $650 to replace it. Or, $74.89 from Amazon.

https://www.amazon.com/Premium-Engine-Honda-2015-Hatchback/dp/B07CVDJNMT

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Feb 6, 2023 08:10:30   #
ddgm Loc: Hamilton, Ontario & Fort Myers, FL
 
What is the flat rate time on labour to replace?

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Feb 6, 2023 08:12:42   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Gotta love it!

Years ago (≈1993?) I had to replace the electronic ignition module in our Ford E-150.
I called the dealer...
Lets say it was like $175 for the module and $150 to install it.

A friend at work said see what color the connector is and go to to Walmart and get one with that color connector. (Mine was blue).
$25, three screws, and about 10 minutes later, walla, up and running.

Turned out my friend used to be in Quality Control at the plant that made them.
SAME MODULE, put in different cases for different brands.........

After that, the dealers only do warranty work for me!

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Feb 6, 2023 08:42:25   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Longshadow wrote:
Gotta love it!

Years ago (≈1993?) I had to replace the electronic ignition module in our Ford E-150.
I called the dealer...
Lets say it was like $175 for the module and $150 to install it.

A friend at work said see what color the connector is and go to to Walmart and get one with that color connector. (Mine was blue).
$25, three screws, and about 10 minutes later, walla, up and running.

Turned out my friend used to be in Quality Control at the plant that made them.
SAME MODULE, put in different cases for different brands.........

After that, the dealers only do warranty work for me!
Gotta love it! br br Years ago (≈1993?) I had to ... (show quote)


Naturally. I bet that wouldn't work today, though. The price in both places would be much higher, and you would have to buy it from Ford. I bought a $75 mass air flow sensor, but my Honda knew it was an impostor. Fortunately, the Honda dealer was willing to sell me an identical part for almost $300. They can charge whatever they want, and if we don't get Right to Repair laws, $300 will look like a bargain.

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Feb 6, 2023 08:44:51   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Naturally. I bet that wouldn't work today, though. The price in both places would be much higher, and you would have to buy it from Ford. I bought a $75 mass air flow sensor, but my Honda knew it was an impostor. Fortunately, the Honda dealer was willing to sell me an identical part for almost $300. They can charge whatever they want, and if we don't get Right to Repair laws, $300 will look like a bargain.


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Feb 6, 2023 12:17:22   #
Shellback Loc: North of Cheyenne Bottoms Wetlands - Kansas
 
I just bought a OBD2 adapter for my vehicle - the software is free to download and relatively cheap to purchase some modules that let you modify almost everything in the vehicle. I want to be able to read the codes when the "check engine light" comes on and modify a few things like shut off the chimes when the key is in and the doors are open.
A friend had his check engine light come on and he called the dealer - they couldn't get him in for almost 2 weeks - not good as he runs a pest control business and is on the road every day - went to the local mechanic who plugged in, found it was a emissions sensor - cleared the code - replaced the sensor and good to go - a lot cheaper than the dealer...

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Feb 6, 2023 13:07:21   #
flip1948 Loc: Hamden, CT
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Someone posted on the Honda Fit forum that he has a cracked oil pan. The dealer said it will cost $650 to replace it. Or, $74.89 from Amazon.

https://www.amazon.com/Premium-Engine-Honda-2015-Hatchback/dp/B07CVDJNMT

Add in the cost of the gasket and sealant and then consider if working under the car on a set of ramps is worth the risk. Add in the cost of the ramps if you don't own them.

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Feb 7, 2023 06:10:23   #
Manglesphoto Loc: 70 miles south of St.Louis
 
flip1948 wrote:
Add in the cost of the gasket and sealant and then consider if working under the car on a set of ramps is worth the risk. Add in the cost of the ramps if you don't own them.


Ramps have the least amount of risk involved than any other method of raising a car at home!!!
Not having worked on a Honda Fit I can't say how long it should take to R&R the oil pan.
But I replaced a pan gasket on a Riveria, the gasket was neoprene and used no sealer!! however I ruined two by over tightening the bolts with a nut driver then found out the torque specs were 10 in/lbs YES 10 in/lbs!! That just a little over finger tight (for me)

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Feb 7, 2023 06:14:55   #
Manglesphoto Loc: 70 miles south of St.Louis
 
Shellback wrote:
I just bought a OBD2 adapter for my vehicle - the software is free to download and relatively cheap to purchase some modules that let you modify almost everything in the vehicle. I want to be able to read the codes when the "check engine light" comes on and modify a few things like shut off the chimes when the key is in and the doors are open.
A friend had his check engine light come on and he called the dealer - they couldn't get him in for almost 2 weeks - not good as he runs a pest control business and is on the road every day - went to the local mechanic who plugged in, found it was a emissions sensor - cleared the code - replaced the sensor and good to go - a lot cheaper than the dealer...
I just bought a OBD2 adapter for my vehicle - the ... (show quote)


Dealer labor around St.Louis, Mo was around $125 per hr 4years ago they are now that high 75miles outside St.L.
And Jerry is right about the Right to repair laws.

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Feb 7, 2023 08:14:26   #
agillot
 
Be happy , here in TX , after the ice storm , tree trimmers are charging people 3 to 5000 $ for 2 or 3 hours of work .A group of us are doing it for free . 2 years ago it was roof replacements , most of them where fine . But dont worry , the insurance will pay 75% of it .

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Feb 7, 2023 08:19:54   #
Morry Loc: Palm Springs, CA
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Someone posted on the Honda Fit forum that he has a cracked oil pan. The dealer said it will cost $650 to replace it. Or, $74.89 from Amazon.

https://www.amazon.com/Premium-Engine-Honda-2015-Hatchback/dp/B07CVDJNMT


Bought a new 2021 Honda Accord. Parking lot experience left me with separated front fender from body (1.5" to 2") with no dents or paint damage. Got 3 estimates. 1st one was $800. 2nd was $450. 3rd one was $80. The 3rd estimate got the job. I waited while it was being done. It took 25 minutes and looked like new. The owner of the body shop even thanked me for my business.

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Feb 7, 2023 09:29:36   #
HOHIMER
 
Shellback wrote:
I just bought a OBD2 adapter for my vehicle - the software is free to download and relatively cheap to purchase some modules that let you modify almost everything in the vehicle. I want to be able to read the codes when the "check engine light" comes on and modify a few things like shut off the chimes when the key is in and the doors are open.
A friend had his check engine light come on and he called the dealer - they couldn't get him in for almost 2 weeks - not good as he runs a pest control business and is on the road every day - went to the local mechanic who plugged in, found it was a emissions sensor - cleared the code - replaced the sensor and good to go - a lot cheaper than the dealer...
I just bought a OBD2 adapter for my vehicle - the ... (show quote)

In the near future this may not be true as each part will be linked to that car (device) and only a dealer part will work. So third party parts may not work untill the dealer is paid to 'clear' it through the computer link....which they may refuse to do, if it is not a part they installed. Part of the Right-to-Repair problem. Much like printer ink.

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Feb 7, 2023 09:55:59   #
HOHIMER
 
Shellback wrote:
I just bought a OBD2 adapter for my vehicle - the software is free to download and relatively cheap to purchase some modules that let you modify almost everything in the vehicle. I want to be able to read the codes when the "check engine light" comes on and modify a few things like shut off the chimes when the key is in and the doors are open.
A friend had his check engine light come on and he called the dealer - they couldn't get him in for almost 2 weeks - not good as he runs a pest control business and is on the road every day - went to the local mechanic who plugged in, found it was a emissions sensor - cleared the code - replaced the sensor and good to go - a lot cheaper than the dealer...
I just bought a OBD2 adapter for my vehicle - the ... (show quote)


Generally the dealer will charge an 'up-front' diagnostic fee of $125 just to plug in the OBD2 device to look for the problem and an additional charge of $200 per hour while looking! Then charge $200/hour to fix the problems found plus parts. In some cases the service department is the only profitable part of the whole operation.

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Feb 7, 2023 10:08:54   #
FredCM Loc: Central Illinois
 
I wonder how much of the Fit's undercarriage and drivetrain has to be removed to get at the oil pan. Using the $125 labor rate mentioned above, 4 hours labor is $500. I'm making this up but it might be either raise the engine several inches or drop whatever passes for the K member to get at the oil pan. If so I'm not sure if I'd want a non Honda mechanic doing the work. Maybe there's a youtube video.

The larger question might be, what cracked the oil pan? Not something one hears everyday.

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Feb 7, 2023 11:01:30   #
HOHIMER
 
Shellback wrote:
I just bought a OBD2 adapter for my vehicle - the software is free to download and relatively cheap to purchase some modules that let you modify almost everything in the vehicle. I want to be able to read the codes when the "check engine light" comes on and modify a few things like shut off the chimes when the key is in and the doors are open.
A friend had his check engine light come on and he called the dealer - they couldn't get him in for almost 2 weeks - not good as he runs a pest control business and is on the road every day - went to the local mechanic who plugged in, found it was a emissions sensor - cleared the code - replaced the sensor and good to go - a lot cheaper than the dealer...
I just bought a OBD2 adapter for my vehicle - the ... (show quote)


Some car dealers do not have a electronic diagnostician on the payroll. They farm out the work to a contract individual that comes around once a week to do nothing but diagnose electrical problems and tell the dealer’s mechanic what parts need to be replaced to fix the problems found. He does no repair work himself. He charges $100 to $125 for each diagnostic, regardless of how long it takes, up to one half hour. If it takes longer than one half hour he bills the dealer at the rate of $200 per hour.
So the dealer ‘saves-up’ the cars to be diagnosed in a special area for the contract person to look at when he comes in next Monday or a week from next Monday. The dealer mechanics replace the parts identified as needing replacement. If that does not fix the problem, or there are additional problems, the car goes back to the ‘needs diagnostic’ lot for a review the next time the electronic diagnostician shows up.

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