Once again, which camera gear to take on a trip.
Longshadow wrote:
Yea, I'm not gonna run right out and get a lens for the occasional possible situation, like that gnat at 100 yards.
If I need more than 200mm, and cropping in edit doesn't work, oh well.
I don't need to carry a camera store with me.
The longstanding marketing story that we need a FL (or specialized lens) for every contingency can only work if users are brainwashed to believe that inability to do everything is just plain unprofessional.
This relies on the great unwashed feeling the need to mimic "the Pros" whom they slavishly worship. Its an attempt to live a fantasy. Acoarst the nonfantasy version of professionalism is simply finding enough frequent work within the abilities of your operation, not pretending to handle every imaginable scenario. That latter idea is the wanabees game.
User ID wrote:
The longstanding marketing story that we need a FL (or specialized lens) for every contingency can only work if users are brainwashed to believe that inability to do everything is just plain unprofessional.
This relies on the great unwashed feeling the need to mimic "the Pros" whom they slavishly worship. Its an attempt to live a fantasy. Acoarst the nonfantasy version of professionalism is simply finding enough frequent work within the abilities of your operation, not pretending to handle every imaginable scenario. The latter is the wanabees game.
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8 out of 10 people probably couldn't tell the difference between a OEM lens and a third party lens (except for the $19.95 WBL brand) without a magnifying glass. Amazing how the minutest detail matters to so many.
Then, some people
MUST cover every possible scenario. Better them than me.
For others, the perceived best is an absolute requirement, anything perceived as lesser, is totally unacceptable.
Well, their money...
Longshadow wrote:
8 out of 10 people probably couldn't tell the difference between a OEM lens and a third party lens (except for the $19.95 WBL brand) without a magnifying glass. Amazing how the minutest detail matters to so many.
Then, some people
MUST cover every possible scenario. Better them than me.
For others, the perceived best is an absolute requirement, anything perceived as lesser, is totally unacceptable.
Well, their money...
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Mainly agree except that idea of yours that "some people MUST cover every possible scenario". That idea obviously flys in the face of the marketplace for widely varied photographic skill sets, services, and specialties ... just like in most fields of commerce.
User ID wrote:
Mainly agree except that idea of yours that "some people MUST cover every possible scenario". That idea obviously flys in the face of the marketplace for widely varied photographic skill sets, services, and specialties ... just like in most fields of commerce.
Commercially vs. personally, yea, a bit different.
imagemeister wrote:
All you need is Sony RX10/100 latest versions.......Until some one ( Zeiss) makes a serious 18-400 f3.5 - 5.6 lens or a fixed lens APSC camera with such a lens ......Naturally, there will be a lot of backlash/suppression from most lens/camera manufacturers 8-(
Too often I post here about the importance of being inconspicuous for travel photography. It leads to better take home images. The RX100 is the best I've ever used if "keepers" count.
I have the original and set it aside for a camera with better video specs. The newest M7 fixes that!
One of the responders mentioned the Canon SX50. I’ve used one on several trips and loved the flexibility and range. I’ve since replaced it with a Nikon P900 and really love it, too, for situations where flexibility is at a premium and there are weight or space restrictions.
larryepage wrote:
My hat is off to you. I did a major trip by car last June. As an experiment, I took two cameras, one DX, one full frame. Each had a 24-120mm lens. Either of them would have been all I needed except for one situation where 24mm wasn't quite wide enough on the DX camera. I just made a 3 shot panorama.
Just curious. Why didn't you just take the picture with the full frame camera?
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Longshadow wrote:
Commercially vs. personally, yea, a bit different.
OK. When you wrote "MUST" (in all caps) I read that as meaning money involved,
must deliver to get paid. Now I guess you really meant obsessive personal "need".
User ID wrote:
OK. When you wrote "MUST" (in all caps) I read that as meaning money involved, must deliver to get paid. Now I guess you really meant obsessive personal "need".
Correct.
But for some, it actually
is a must.
As in when an obsessive personal need becomes a "must" have/do.
Bill_de wrote:
Just curious. Why didn't you just take the picture with the full frame camera?
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I took one or the other of the cameras with me each day, so once the choice was made, it was final. Remember...it was an experiment to test the suitability of each camera. It was a meeting of a large group, and we were on bus excursions and train rides each day.
pj81156 wrote:
In May we are off to Italy, Greece and the Holy Land. Then in August, Alaska. I have been stressing over what camera and lenses to take. Then I remembered. About 30 years ago we went to France, Germany, Switzerland, and England and all I had with me was my Olympus XA2 and came back with hundreds of wonderful photos and slides. And then I remembered a very recent trip to Yosemite loaded with cameras and lenses and spending a lot of time changing lenses, lugging around stuff and seeing more of Yosemite through my finder than with my eyes. I missed a lot. Although I will probably take more than an XA2, I will simplify, simplify, simplify. When did it become so complicated? Serious gear for birding, at the shore, in the woods. Simple gear for vacations.
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How sharp do you want your images? Not necessarily the megapixels, but how large will be your viewings from your trip. If you want light weight and versatility, stick with the Olympus brand you used before and get one of their m4/3s like the Pen3 I have. For sharpness use a "prime" single foccal length lens. And those are both fast and lightweight. Good for travel. Skip the Pen1 and 2, but the Pen3 removed the inconveniences of the first two models. But you need the electronic viewer sold separately. Below is a picture of my setup like I describe. It is the lightest possible.------------ew
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When I travel, I leave my FF system and big fast lenses at home and take my Fuji with a 16-80 and stick a 23 f2 in my pocket. Small, light, and with an APC sensor, higher ISOs are no problem.
larryepage wrote:
I took one or the other of the cameras with me each day, so once the choice was made, it was final. Remember...it was an experiment to test the suitability of each canera. It was a meeting of a large group, and we were on bus excursions and train rides each day.
Thanks Larry. The way I read it I thought you had 2 cameras 'with you'.
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Longshadow wrote:
Correct.
But for some, it actually is a must.
As in when an obsessive personal need becomes a "must" have/do.
My sympathies to some of such folk (some, not all). They are spendy pack mules. My sympathies are cuz I may own enuf stuff to cover almost everything, but I will only tote enuf stuff for a "limited photographic approach".
We (hopefully) all know what effect our choice of gear will have on our "style". I just choose a style, either by whim or by informed planning, and tote only that much gear.
If my informed planning *seems* to tell me I "MUST" be ready for anything and everything, then I pause and ask myself how my informed planning could possibly be so ill informed !
Acoarst packing on a whim is always easy and fun, as is toting my whimsical gear (could be a body plus two verrrry widely spaced small primes).
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5 weeks out of town with just a 35/2.0. Even if this were the only result, Im OK.
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User ID wrote:
My sympathies to some of such folk (some, not all). They are spendy pack mules. My sympathies are cuz I may own enuf stuff to cover almost everything, but I will only tote enuf stuff for a "limited photographic approach".
We (hopefully) all know what effect our choice of gear will have on our "style". I just choose a style, either by whim or by informed planning, and tote only that much gear.
If my informed planning *seems* to tell me I "MUST" be ready for anything and everything, then I pause and ask myself how my informed planning could possibly be so ill informed !
Acoarst packing on a whim is always easy and fun, as is toting my whimsical gear (could be a body plus two verrrry widely spaced small primes).
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Like I have a set of extension tubes (among other stuff), but they do not go in my gear bag, unless I'm
planning to use them. I
could carry them, as a just-in-case, but I won't.
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