Biden on classified documents: Biden was quoted as saying that Trump was “irresponsible” to have classified documents in a private place. I guess the FBI will also raid Biden’s offices?

travelwp Loc: New Jersey

Biden was quoted as saying that Trump was “irresponsible” to have classified documents in a private place.

I guess the FBI will also raid Biden’s offices?

FrumCA

travelwp wrote:

Biden was quoted as saying that Trump was “irresponsible” to have classified documents in a private place.

I guess the FBI will also raid Biden’s offices?

The documents were allegedly turned over to the National Archives the day after they were discovered so the left will say all is well. Reports don't say who had access to the documents in the 2-year timeframe between 2020 and November 2022 when the documents were handed over to the National Archives.

Triple G

FrumCA wrote:

The documents were allegedly turned over to the National Archives the day after they were discovered so the left will say all is well. Reports don't say who had access to the documents in the 2-year timeframe between 2020 and November 2022 when the documents were handed over to the National Archives.

DOJ is involved to establish all of that. They didn't need FBI search warrant to get cooperation.

FrumCA

Triple G wrote:

DOJ is involved to establish all of that. They didn't need FBI search warrant to get cooperation.

Apples and Oranges. I have no doubt that the DOJ will sweep this under the table. Nevertheless, the issue is unlawful retention of classified documents.

Triple G

FrumCA wrote:

Apples and Oranges. I have no doubt that the DOJ will sweep this under the table. Nevertheless, the issue is unlawful retention of classified documents.

Definitely your (and others) trying to make this an apple to trump's apple when you clearly acknowledge that it's an orange.

DukeTarHeel Loc: NC's "Research Triangle"

FrumCA wrote:

The documents were allegedly turned over to the National Archives the day after they were discovered so the left will say all is well. Reports don't say who had access to the documents in the 2-year timeframe between 2020 and November 2022 when the documents were handed over to the National Archives.

They were found in a locked closet in a locked office. Not quite the same as being easily seen by anyone walking into a Mar-A-Lago office. Oh, and once found, they were immediately turned over to the National Archives. There were no lies saying all had been returned. It's not even close.

Triple G

DukeTarHeel wrote:

They were found in a locked closet in a locked office. Not quite the same as being easily seen by anyone walking into a Mar-A-Lago office. Oh, and once found, they were immediately turned over to the National Archives. There were no lies saying all had been returned. It's not even close.

A new committee chair is trying to prove himself to McCarthy, Gaetz and Jordan and is being way over-exuberant. Investigate Biden is a great campaign slogan that feeds the MAGA crowd, but looking like a fool in your first proclamation will not serve Comer’scredibility.

The Aardvark Is Ready

Triple G wrote:

Definitely your (and others) trying to make this an apple to trump's apple when you clearly acknowledge that it's an orange.

Of course there are differences between this and Trump's case. But the bottom line is apples to apples. Unlawful retention of classified documents. In Trump's case he had classification authority and Biden as VP did not. Again he had unlawful possession of these documents and DID have them in basically an unsecured location. A locked closet in an office building? Come on.

Triple G

The Aardvark Is Ready wrote:

Of course there are differences between this and Trump's case. But the bottom line is apples to apples. Unlawful retention of classified documents. In Trump's case he had classification authority and Biden as VP did not. Again he had unlawful possession of these documents and DID have them in basically an unsecured location. A locked closet in an office building? Come on.

You’re reacting just as the red-meat slingers desire. It’s not a good look to be so taken in.

The Aardvark Is Ready

DukeTarHeel wrote:

They were found in a locked closet in a locked office. Not quite the same as being easily seen by anyone walking into a Mar-A-Lago office. Oh, and once found, they were immediately turned over to the National Archives. There were no lies saying all had been returned. It's not even close.

Of course it's not the same situation as Trump's . No one, well at least not me, is saying that it is. But just cause it's not totally apples to apples does not mean it's right. The bottom line is he was in illegal possession of classified documents. Your point that once "found" they were turned over does not change that he shouldn't have had them in the first place. Trump's "out" is that he said he declassified. Whether that is true we shall see. Biden as VP had no such authority.
As for being in a locked closet, that is still not a legal place to store classified documents.

FrumCA

DukeTarHeel wrote:

They were found in a locked closet in a locked office. Not quite the same as being easily seen by anyone walking into a Mar-A-Lago office. Oh, and once found, they were immediately turned over to the National Archives. There were no lies saying all had been returned. It's not even close.

Your attempted spin on this does not in any way shape or form change the fact that biden was in illegally in possession of classified documents. You don't address the issue of who had access to the office and allegedly locked closet during the 2-year period before the documents were handed over OR who he shared the documents with during the time he actually occupied the office. Nice try but it's not going to float.

The Aardvark Is Ready

Triple G wrote:

You’re reacting just as the red-meat slingers desire. It’s not a good look to be so taken in.

See this is the trouble with you guys. I put forth what I thought was a reasonable argument and you come back with some snarky BS. Argue with what I said. What do you disagree with? How am I wrong? Why don't you try doing that? You may even have such great points that I end up agreeing with you.

The Aardvark Is Ready

FrumCA wrote:

Your attempted spin on this does not in any way shape or form change the fact that biden was in illegally in possession of classified documents. You don't address the issue of who had access to the office and allegedly locked closet during the 2-year period before the documents were handed over OR who he shared the documents with during the time he actually occupied the office. Nice try but it's not going to float.

They're spinning aren't they? They're pointing out all the obvious differences between this and Trump and using that as rationalization for excusing it. All their spin does not change the fact he was in illegal possession of these documents and stored them in an unapproved unsecure location.

Triple G

FrumCA wrote:

Your attempted spin on this does not in any way shape or form change the fact that biden was in illegally in possession of classified documents. You don't address the issue of who had access to the office and allegedly locked closet during the 2-year period before the documents were handed over OR who he shared the documents with during the time he actually occupied the office. Nice try but it's not going to float.

It's already been reviewed by a trump appointed judge. I'm good waiting on his findings. I'll react when I know Biden or his people has purposely done anything wrong. It's only in light of trump's misdeeds with documents that this is news. Certainly, other documents have been "recovered" under previous administrations. The question of nefarious actions is much due to trump.

The Aardvark Is Ready

Triple G wrote:

It's already been reviewed by a trump appointed judge. I'm good waiting on his findings. I'll react when I know Biden or his people has done purposely done anything wrong. It's only in light of trump's misdeeds with documents that this is news. Certainly, other documents have been "recovered" under previous administrations. The question of nefarious actions is much due to trump.

Right. Sure. OK. You're fine waiting on a judge's findings. You don't seem to show the same courtesy to Trump. You have him tried and convicted in your mind. Isn't that the definition of hypocrisy?