OwlHarbor Loc: Pacific North West USA

I am a longtime Samsung (android) user and currently have a Samsung Note 9 and an iPhone 12 for work. I have been using an iPhone now for several years for work and remember it was not intuitive or had a quick learning curve. I've heard about iPhone users using Android phones having the same issues. Steve Jobs, The Crazy ones was a genius from my point of view (not everyone), https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtftHaK9tYY I think you will find many from both groups of users Android and iPhone. Steve Jobs and Bill Gates were competitors and what I found most interesting is that Steve demanded total control over his computers and phones while Bill made his software available to all manufacturers of hardware, and Bill never successfully entered the phone market. What both have in common is the cameras on phones that continue to get better and have made photography mainstream in the world. I am guessing that there are more photographers in the world than at any time in history. Ok, yes it's not dedicated cameras but it is exciting. I've met first-time camera buyers who bought cameras because they wanted to get more than their phones could offer. I am hoping that the big camera makers are watching and planning to take seriously the competition of phone cameras by improving their offerings. What are your thoughts?

micyclebicycle

It’s only a matter of a short time period when phones will pull equal to most cameras. Just my opinion.

Ysarex Loc: St. Louis

Can't wait for those interchangeable lens phones.

BebuLamar

I settle for variable aperture for now. Looking for true optical zoom in a few years perhaps?

stanikon Loc: Deep in the Heart of Texas

They are working on that very thing.

Ysarex Loc: St. Louis

What very thing?

OwlHarbor Loc: Pacific North West USA

I am curious if they make an electronic shutter for camera chips why couldn't they make electronic apertures? The electronic shutter is shutting off the amount of light getting to the chip so why not have a larger fixed aperture and control the amount of light coming into the chip?

stanikon Loc: Deep in the Heart of Texas

Did you bother to read the post that I'm quoting?

Ysarex Loc: St. Louis

Yes, that post was vague. Equal in what way?

stanikon Loc: Deep in the Heart of Texas

Options, abilities, accessories, etc. Sorry, seems obvious to me.

Ysarex Loc: St. Louis

Sorry too, but I'm missing specifics in that.
For example are they working on a phone where you can take the lens out/off and replace it with a different lens?

fredpnm Loc: Corrales, NM

I've not been able to get a good photo on my Nikon camera since these damn smartphone cameras came out! I might have to go mirrorless! Mirrorless, I guess smartphones qualify for that.

BebuLamar

Yeah mirroless but on most phones if you use the front camera you get the mirror image.

fredpnm Loc: Corrales, NM

Ahh, yes of course! We learn new stuff everyday!

OwlHarbor Loc: Pacific North West USA

From what I understand having a full-frame camera with lots of megapixels you can crop the picture really small and get great quality but the size of the camera phone chip is fairly small. If you are taking pics to share on your phone, the web, or social media a phone camera may be fine. If after you took a picture and need to zoom in to catch an event, person, or other not so much.