When Did This Change?
Jan 3, 2023 13:20:26 #
StanMac
Loc: Tennessee
I do realize that our language and word usage changes over time. Sometimes it makes sense, other times it just doesn't sound right.
When did the phrase "in connection with" change to "in connection to"? I have used the former all my life, but lately in articles I read the latter seems to have eclipsed the former as common usage, at least in the written news stories that I read.
For some reason it is bothersome to me that supposedly trained journalists are using a phrase that just doesn't make sense to me in the context in which it is used. It's kind of like the original phrase "I couldn't care less" has for some reason morphed into "I could care less", which changed the whole meaning of that original phrase.
Stan
When did the phrase "in connection with" change to "in connection to"? I have used the former all my life, but lately in articles I read the latter seems to have eclipsed the former as common usage, at least in the written news stories that I read.
For some reason it is bothersome to me that supposedly trained journalists are using a phrase that just doesn't make sense to me in the context in which it is used. It's kind of like the original phrase "I couldn't care less" has for some reason morphed into "I could care less", which changed the whole meaning of that original phrase.
Stan
Jan 3, 2023 13:35:47 #
Grammar, spelling and punctuation seem to be becoming a thing of the past. It amazes me how many articles I read with errors.
Dodie
Dodie
Jan 3, 2023 13:37:54 #
StanMac wrote:
I do realize that our language and word usage chan... (show quote)
"In connection with" seems to be first person to me, "in connection to" seems to be someone commenting on something so that would seem appropriate for a reporter/journalist when talking about something.
So maybe both are correct depending on circumstances.
Jan 3, 2023 13:42:53 #
StanMac
Loc: Tennessee
robertjerl wrote:
"In connection with" seems to be first person to me, "in connection to" seems to be someone commenting on something so that would seem appropriate for a reporter/journalist when talking about something.
So maybe both are correct depending on circumstances.
So maybe both are correct depending on circumstances.
I just googled it. From https://www.grammarbook.com/homonyms/in-connection%20to-in-connection-with.asp
In connection to, In connection with
In connection with is the standard idiom for expressing a relationship of one thing with another. For example, "Police questioned three senior citizens in connection with a spate of jaywalking violations downtown." For unknown reasons, local news announcers have begun using in connection to for this purpose. Connected to should be reserved for physical connection: "The gas pump is connected to the underground storage tank."
Stan
Jan 3, 2023 14:34:44 #
StanMac wrote:
I just googled it. From https://www.grammarbook.c... (show quote)
I completely forgot about that use of "connected to". I have been a retired couch potato for too long and even further from the Grandparents' farm of my youth in the 50s and 60s where we actually had a lot of stuff that "connected to" something, like a tractor.
Jan 3, 2023 14:39:28 #
Jan 3, 2023 14:55:42 #
amfoto1 wrote:
Spel czech and gramur czech keep me being good righting. 
I think of them as the "automatic screw up" features.
Jan 3, 2023 15:57:04 #
luvmypets wrote:
Grammar, spelling and punctuation seem to be becoming a thing of the past. It amazes me how many articles I read with errors.
Dodie
Dodie
Jan 3, 2023 15:59:29 #
amfoto1 wrote:
Spel czech and gramur czech keep me being good righting.
"Did you mean 'upright'?
Jan 3, 2023 16:00:26 #
robertjerl wrote:
I think of them as the "automatic screw up" features.
I call it "auto corrupt".
Jan 3, 2023 19:58:43 #
I get mad at times reading news articles. They have so many errors in grammar and spelling it causes me to have to read everything twice. Whatever happened to proofreaders?
Jan 4, 2023 07:55:41 #
"I could care less" is one of my favorite ignorant misuses of the English language. Makes no sense.
Jan 4, 2023 08:25:10 #
Ollieboy wrote:
"I could care less" is one of my favorite ignorant misuses of the English language. Makes no sense.
Not if you choose to care as much or more than you do now. Did I get that right 🤔🤔🤔
Jan 4, 2023 09:06:54 #
StanMac wrote:
I just googled it. From https://www.grammarbook.c... (show quote)
The hardest letters for ventriloquists to say are m, b, p, v, and w without moving their lips. They work their patter to avoid words with those letters. The same thing goes with the news readers on TV. And people do mimic what they hear. One such example is using "seasonably" for "seasonal" by the weather people. "-ably" is a stronger stopping word end than "-aly".
And, interestingly, the phrase "standard idiom" is noted in your cite above. I came into this country about sixty years ago with no English. I was nine before I used (American) English fluently. However, even to this day, I have some difficulty with idioms. The point is that common usage does come into language usage. And who determines common usage? People, present day people.
Languages do change on a daily basis, like it or not. There was a time were "bad" was "good", too.
Jan 4, 2023 09:09:45 #
aphelps
Loc: Central Ohio
kpmac wrote:
I get mad at times reading news articles. They have so many errors in grammar and spelling it causes me to have to read everything twice. Whatever happened to proofreaders?
Same generation as the writers.
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