VR on wide-angle lens
Dec 20, 2022 00:42:31 #
Looking into buying a wideangle lens for my Nikon D5600, I noticed that many of the WA lens do not have any sort of vibration reduction system while others do have one. For instance, the Nikon 10-20 has VR, the Nikon 12-24 does not. Is it because vibration reduction is not a major problem when using WA lenses especially when shooting landscapes from a tripod?
Trapper1
Trapper1
Dec 20, 2022 02:04:16 #
trapper1 wrote:
Looking into buying a wideangle lens for my Nikon D5600, I noticed that many of the WA lens do not have any sort of vibration reduction system while others do have one. For instance, the Nikon 10-20 has VR, the Nikon 12-24 does not. Is it because vibration reduction is not a major problem when using WA lenses especially when shooting landscapes from a tripod?
Trapper1
Trapper1
What do you expect from the VR feature?
Dec 20, 2022 04:29:48 #
trapper1 wrote:
Looking into buying a wideangle lens for my Nikon D5600, I noticed that many of the WA lens do not have any sort of vibration reduction system while others do have one. For instance, the Nikon 10-20 has VR, the Nikon 12-24 does not. Is it because vibration reduction is not a major problem when using WA lenses especially when shooting landscapes from a tripod?
Trapper1
Trapper1
Theres no rationale whatsoever.
Acoarst Hogsters will speculate as if there is one. I have faced this over and over. If you try to make sense of it youll find that the least appropriate lenses get the VR.
Theres no rationale but I did find a simple solution. Ive switched to new bodies that have IBIS. Works really great. I am now a very happy camper.
Dec 20, 2022 05:33:07 #
Vibration Reduction was added to telephoto lenses because of the benefits of reducing motion effects of camera movement when you are picturing a small field of view at a distance. Short focal lengths with wide field of view may not benefit as much from VR.
It was only after longer focal lengths were taken care of that shorter lengths were considered.
The 10-20 DX lens is one of the last F-mount lenses Nikon created, the 12-24 is one of the earliest.
It was only after longer focal lengths were taken care of that shorter lengths were considered.
The 10-20 DX lens is one of the last F-mount lenses Nikon created, the 12-24 is one of the earliest.
Dec 20, 2022 06:27:24 #
The use of VR on wide angle lenses is not as useful as it is with teles. A good example is a 24mm lens. If you shoot in bright sunlight and follow the "sunny 16" rule your exposure for most subjects will be f16 and a shutter speed equivalent to the ISO in use. Many cameras start at ISO 200 so your shutter speed will be higher than the focal length of most wide angles. If shooting from a tripod it does not matter if you shoot at 1/20 sec. with the 24mm, the tripod will guarantee a sharp image....if proper tripod techniques are used.
I still shoot with the 12-24 f4 Nikon lens, many times I use it with my D610 and in bright light shutter speeds have not caused any ill effect on the images. I usually shoot with it on a tripod for a better control of my visual design.
As has been said, cameras with in body VR like my Olympus will stabilize any lens I put on them but honestly, with wide angles VR is the least of my worries unless I am shooting in very dark places.
I still shoot with the 12-24 f4 Nikon lens, many times I use it with my D610 and in bright light shutter speeds have not caused any ill effect on the images. I usually shoot with it on a tripod for a better control of my visual design.
As has been said, cameras with in body VR like my Olympus will stabilize any lens I put on them but honestly, with wide angles VR is the least of my worries unless I am shooting in very dark places.
Dec 20, 2022 06:39:26 #
trapper1 wrote:
Looking into buying a wideangle lens for my Nikon D5600, I noticed that many of the WA lens do not have any sort of vibration reduction system while others do have one. For instance, the Nikon 10-20 has VR, the Nikon 12-24 does not. Is it because vibration reduction is not a major problem when using WA lenses especially when shooting landscapes from a tripod?
Trapper1
Trapper1
How about a macro lens. The Nikon 105 Macro is an excellent lens. and it will double as a portrait lens too. Macro is a whole new world you can explore and you don't have to travel to Timbuktu. Click the download and then click on the photo to zoom in.
Dec 20, 2022 06:44:59 #
trapper1 wrote:
Looking into buying a wideangle lens for my Nikon D5600, I noticed that many of the WA lens do not have any sort of vibration reduction system while others do have one. For instance, the Nikon 10-20 has VR, the Nikon 12-24 does not. Is it because vibration reduction is not a major problem when using WA lenses especially when shooting landscapes from a tripod?
Trapper1
Trapper1
Putting image stabilization on a lens is 1. Older lenses made before IS and 2. Manufacturer made the corporate decision not to put IS into the lens.
Nothing more than that.
Dec 20, 2022 07:19:06 #
tcthome
Loc: NJ
trapper1 wrote:
Looking into buying a wideangle lens for my Nikon D5600, I noticed that many of the WA lens do not have any sort of vibration reduction system while others do have one. For instance, the Nikon 10-20 has VR, the Nikon 12-24 does not. Is it because vibration reduction is not a major problem when using WA lenses especially when shooting landscapes from a tripod?
Trapper1
Trapper1
I can only relate from my experience using the Nikon 14-24 (non VR) lens on the D810 36mp camera. Haven't had a problem on the tripod. Handheld without my usual 60 oz. of high-test coffee
I do alright at lower shutter speeds. Of course they cost more but if you feel it is needed, get it. If oyu have the opportunity to try both on your camera in store, take advantage of it & do so.Dec 20, 2022 07:27:04 #
trapper1 wrote:
My Sigma 10-20 3.5 EX doesn’t have VR. I'm very happy with it. No problems with it. It's very sharp shooting hand held.Looking into buying a wideangle lens for my Nikon D5600, I noticed that many of the WA lens do not have any sort of vibration reduction system while others do have one. For instance, the Nikon 10-20 has VR, the Nikon 12-24 does not. Is it because vibration reduction is not a major problem when using WA lenses especially when shooting landscapes from a tripod?
Trapper1
Trapper1
Dec 20, 2022 07:59:21 #
Dec 20, 2022 09:03:20 #
therwol
Loc: USA
trapper1 wrote:
Is it because vibration reduction is not a major problem when using WA lenses especially when shooting landscapes from a tripod?Trapper1
You don't need VR if you're shooting from a tripod. If you're shooting hand held, you might find yourself using it while shooting dim interiors, even with a wide angle lens. You can crank up the ISO to the tolerable limit and still find yourself exposing at 1/8-1/4 second. I've been in that situation. Without some compensation, tripod or bracing against something, your pictures may blur with any lens.
Dec 20, 2022 10:28:23 #
trapper1 wrote:
Looking into buying a wideangle lens for my Nikon D5600, I noticed that many of the WA lens do not have any sort of vibration reduction system while others do have one. For instance, the Nikon 10-20 has VR, the Nikon 12-24 does not. Is it because vibration reduction is not a major problem when using WA lenses especially when shooting landscapes from a tripod?
Trapper1
Trapper1
Yes, I think so! At least I know that long lenses NEED VR more than Wide Angles!
Dec 20, 2022 10:40:39 #
trapper1 wrote:
Looking into buying a wideangle lens for my Nikon D5600, I noticed that many of the WA lens do not have any sort of vibration reduction system while others do have one. For instance, the Nikon 10-20 has VR, the Nikon 12-24 does not. Is it because vibration reduction is not a major problem when using WA lenses especially when shooting landscapes from a tripod?
Trapper1
Trapper1
I shoot landscape and especially enjoy shooting water in various forms. VR or IS as Canon chooses to call it can be an aid if you don't have a tripod handy and you like silky water in your images or cloud blur. In landscape photography most shoot with small aperture settings at low ISO settings so at times it can indeed be helpful.
Dec 20, 2022 11:00:41 #
VR (Vibration Reduction) works ONLY to reduce the camera motion and does not help for what is in front of it. While the VR can be helpful at times, it is not a cure it all for motion blur.
As one mentioned, VR works best when using a telephoto to correct MINOR issues when holding a camera. One should have mentioned it that this useful for high pixel cameras. In both cases, any vibration created in the camera when taking a picture can be noticeable, VR reduces some of it.
VR 'advantages' are reduced when taking a picture with a wide angle, as details are not recorded as well.
The main thing is really to remember that VR works only at the camera sensor array level. To freeze a scene, one needs to use a faster speed (faster ISO too if the aperture is fixed). At this point, the camera 'shake/vibration' is also reduced.
Another pointed out: 'VR sells.' It sells only because folks wrongly believe VR is a universal solution for motion blur.
As one mentioned, VR works best when using a telephoto to correct MINOR issues when holding a camera. One should have mentioned it that this useful for high pixel cameras. In both cases, any vibration created in the camera when taking a picture can be noticeable, VR reduces some of it.
VR 'advantages' are reduced when taking a picture with a wide angle, as details are not recorded as well.
The main thing is really to remember that VR works only at the camera sensor array level. To freeze a scene, one needs to use a faster speed (faster ISO too if the aperture is fixed). At this point, the camera 'shake/vibration' is also reduced.
Another pointed out: 'VR sells.' It sells only because folks wrongly believe VR is a universal solution for motion blur.
Dec 20, 2022 11:48:24 #
Thanks to all who took the time to respond to my inquiry with very insightful information.
The responses make it clear that vibration control is not a major issue when buying a WA lens and that I should not be overly concerned about that feature in choosing a WA lens. Again, thanks to all who responded.
Trapper1
The responses make it clear that vibration control is not a major issue when buying a WA lens and that I should not be overly concerned about that feature in choosing a WA lens. Again, thanks to all who responded.
Trapper1
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