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Dec 11, 2022 00:18:44   #
bikinkawboy Loc: north central Missouri
 
Has anyone used bellows for close ups? How was your experience? I currently have close up lenses and extension tubes. Do bellows have any advantages over those?

Incidentally, I don’t have photoshop and doubt I will. Thanks!

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Dec 11, 2022 03:46:07   #
Orphoto Loc: Oregon
 
Extension tubes are way more convenient to carry in the field. Bellows are more adjustible for the exact amount of extension needed. In most cases you wont have bellows preserving electrical connection between lense and camera body so you lose autofocus and even auto aperture opening and closing. Some bellows offer rise/tilt movements; that can be a plus. Finally, bellows allows back standard movements while focus stacking --the most software friendly way to obtain your slices.

On balance, an interesting experience for the technically minded but far slower to operate.

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Dec 11, 2022 04:58:53   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
bikinkawboy wrote:
Has anyone used bellows for close ups? How was your experience? I currently have close up lenses and extension tubes. Do bellows have any advantages over those?

Incidentally, I don’t have photoshop and doubt I will. Thanks!


I use a bellows but only around the house and because I have one.
It is primarily a tripod proposition and I also use a flash.
The lens is a FLM 100mm f4 designed for a bellows but any lens will do, preferably a prime though.
I took a couple of shots of my setup a while back to show what it looked like in use and will share here again as well as the shots taken that day.
It takes effort and time but can be interesting, the bellows rail helps in positioning and is the only means of focusing.
Is it worth it for some not others yes. I find it interesting but not all the time.
See examples of other combinations attached and their descriptions.
Finally it is all about experimenting and having fun doing it and not taking it too seriously, life is too short.

Bellows, camera, flash and tripod in use
Bellows, camera, flash and tripod in use...





Bellows with a 50mm Componon-s enlarging lens
Bellows with a 50mm Componon-s enlarging lens...

Bellows and standard 50mm macro
Bellows and standard 50mm macro...

Bellows and extension tube combo
Bellows and extension tube combo...

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Dec 11, 2022 06:15:09   #
William Loc: Mississippi
 
complicate work@

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Dec 11, 2022 11:15:59   #
bikinkawboy Loc: north central Missouri
 
Thank you to everyone for your advice and experience! It is appreciated!

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Dec 12, 2022 05:12:21   #
kymarto Loc: Portland OR and Milan Italy
 
bikinkawboy wrote:
Has anyone used bellows for close ups? How was your experience? I currently have close up lenses and extension tubes. Do bellows have any advantages over those?

Incidentally, I don’t have photoshop and doubt I will. Thanks!


One of the big advantages with bellows is that you can maintain the exact distance between front of lens and subject and focus moving the camera (on a tripod of course). However for handholding extension tubes are more convenient.

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Dec 12, 2022 05:45:23   #
jlg1000 Loc: Uruguay / South America
 
bikinkawboy wrote:
Has anyone used bellows for close ups? How was your experience? I currently have close up lenses and extension tubes. Do bellows have any advantages over those?

Incidentally, I don’t have photoshop and doubt I will. Thanks!


Don't know your gear, but I use Meike's because it extends the electrical contacts which enables all lens features (autofocus, iris)



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Dec 12, 2022 06:29:46   #
elliott937 Loc: St. Louis
 
Would you please elaborate on your use of Meike? Is it a lens?
Bill

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Dec 12, 2022 06:48:25   #
jlg1000 Loc: Uruguay / South America
 
elliott937 wrote:
Would you please elaborate on your use of Meike? Is it a lens?
Bill


Hi,

They are low cost extensions tubes which ferry electrical signals to the whichever lens you use.

They work well. They come as a kit with 10mm and 16mm tube length. You combine both and get 26mm extension.

https://www.amazon.com/-/es/MEIKE-MK-S-AF3A-autom%C3%A1tico-0-394-0-630/dp/B01MRXL7Q1

They are compatible with most common camera brands. Check if they work for yours

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Dec 12, 2022 07:57:23   #
Bigmike1 Loc: I am from Gaffney, S.C. but live in Utah.
 
The only bellows I have used is on a 1920's German camera I bought used in a camera store in Mannheim, Germany for about DM20.00 back in the day when we got 4 marks to the dollar. It used 120 roll film. I still have that camera.

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Dec 12, 2022 10:06:15   #
jederick Loc: Northern Utah
 

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Dec 12, 2022 10:49:40   #
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bikinkawboy wrote:
Has anyone used bellows for close ups? How was your experience? I currently have close up lenses and extension tubes. Do bellows have any advantages over those?

Incidentally, I don’t have photoshop and doubt I will. Thanks!

Your devices retain automation. Nearly every bellows does not.

Bellows date to a simpler time, back when your question would never arise.
You do not want a bellows. Stick with what youre using.

You ask how was my experience ? Sorry, but its just a piece if hardware. No thrills, no tribulations. Theres just nothing to report experience-wise.

Some bellows, the "dual rail" type, have built in focusing rails. Thaz an advantage thaz commonly available separately. You might look into getting a focusing rail ... but skip the bellows.

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Dec 12, 2022 11:44:27   #
PhotogHobbyist Loc: Bradford, PA
 
I purchased a bellows attachment for my first camera and even used them a couple times. As I was a rank amateur at photography not to mention even more amateur with bellows, the results were less than great, even acceptable might be a stretch. I still have them and they are in good condition. The problem with them is they are for a film camera, a Petri FT and I have not shot a film photo in ten years or more.

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Dec 12, 2022 11:44:47   #
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bikinkawboy wrote:
Has anyone used bellows for close ups? How was your experience? I currently have close up lenses and extension tubes. Do bellows have any advantages over those?

Incidentally, I don’t have photoshop and doubt I will. Thanks!


Not sure why you mention photoshop. If you meant you have no PP facility at all, and if you doubt you ever will, then you definitely do NOT want a bellows. 100% avoidance of any PP is a very superficial version of photography while, OTOH, a bellows requires a greater connection to principles and methods.

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Dec 12, 2022 12:03:59   #
fetzler Loc: North West PA
 
bikinkawboy wrote:
Has anyone used bellows for close ups? How was your experience? I currently have close up lenses and extension tubes. Do bellows have any advantages over those?

Incidentally, I don’t have photoshop and doubt I will. Thanks!


I have used bellows in the past. Using bellows is very similar to using extension tubes except they are more flexible as the length of the bellows is adjustable in small increments. Bellows can be used to attach enlarger and microscope lenses to your camera for high magnification. A bellows could be used to add swings and tilts help control the perceived depth of field. Novoflex makes a tilt-shift bellows.

Post processing software is very useful (and it doesn't have to be Photoshop). The free software produced by your camera manufacturer may be quite useful. Software to allow focus stacking is, I think, essential to high magnification macro photography. The depth of field is otherwise just too small.

Today there are a number of very good macro lenses made by various manufacturers. Many go to 1X magnification but there are some that go 5X. In my opinion these lenses are easier to use.

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