Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

Can one post SOOC if only shot in raw?
I have to convert to JPEG which involves some modification.
Also does a JPEG SOOC have various preset processes or styles applied by the camera that otherwise would be done in post?

In other words what is SOOC?

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Some of my cameras can deliver almost SOOC jpegs when shooting only in raw. It requires visiting the Retouch Menu but the controls found there for processing raw to jpeg are only the very same controls that a dedicated SOOC jpeg-only shooter can set onto most any camera as their shooting settings. So its the same, even though it takes an extra step.

rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona

Archi, here's a SOOC from my 4x5. No processing whatsoever. Not much to look at but SOOC.
--Bob

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Thaz not SOOC. Thaz SOOBox !

In a vaguely similar vein, below is a sort of SOOC by a Z6. Its not truly straight OUT of camera cuz its not yet OUT of the camera. The capture by iphone does not constitute "processing" cuz an iphone is simply an extension of human vision and not really a separate device. IOW youre seeing through my eyes a scene that has not even been recorded by the camera, the cameras live view.

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Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

In other words it is not SOOC.

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RIGHT. SOOC would require further processing, which reminds us that "SOOC" does not equal "unprocessed".

Thus one valid answer to the query of "what is SOOC" would be "SOOC is a completely specious concept thaz kept alive by delusional internet trolls".

IOW when theres no "there" there, then theres likewise no answer to "what is ?".

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

It depends on one's definition of SOOC.... other than NO POST PROCESSING.
No processing in camera whatsoever (settings "off or centered") or
only preprocessing in camera (depends on settings).

SOOC is a self inflicted "requirement".
Me? I don't shoot for "SOOC" at all. I shoot and tweak if required.
If I don't desire/need to tweak a shot (came out the way I wanted it to come out), that's great. Less <post> work for me. But I don't mind tweaking either.
But I'd never say "ooh, ooh, SOOC!)

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Ysarex Loc: St. Louis

I think SOOC means what it says: Straight Out Of Camera -- the image produced by the camera's image processor, simple as that.

Most cameras produce JPEGs for their final image but there are a few that can also produce a TIFF file. Either would be SOOC.

Re-processed by the camera is also SOOC. Many cameras now permit you to save raw files and later re-process those raw files in the camera using the camera's image processor. Those are likewise SOOC.

Fuji has an interesting twist on that using their XRaw Studio computer app. XRaw Studio requires that you cable connect the camera to the computer. The app gives you an easier to use interface but the camera processor still does the processing work. You get no additional processing functionality from the computer app. Those images are SOOC.

I don't think SOOC in any way precludes using the processing features/functions of the camera. If the camera can alter contrast or color saturation etc. that's a camera processing function and included in SOOC.

Some camera vendors offer computer raw processing apps that will re-create a camera JPEG from a raw file eg. Canon's DPP or Nikon's NX Studio. Here SOOC can begin to stray from a precise definition. Both DPP and NX Studio provide additional functionality beyond what the camera provides. Use those functions and your image is not SOOC. Other questions in this case would be does the computer version use the same demosaicing or noise processing as the camera, etc.? For example Canon for many years before they managed to include DLO in most of their cameras nonetheless provided it in DPP. So if you had an old Canon Tx without DLO and ran your raw files through DPP and got a better result by applying DLO your image wasn't honestly SOOC.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

My definition also - Whatever comes OUT of the camera, no matter what may be done to it while IN the camera.

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My own camera settings all low intensity such that you would not care to see my SOOC. Kinda dull. Dull highlights, softer shadows etc in the jpegs. This often has enuf data in the jpegs so that theres no need to process the raw file. Just tweak to taste and the jpeg is the final product.

The image I posted earlier (kitchen junk) looks finished, not muted, cuz I used the green auto mode that negates my usual low intensity settings.

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

So if there are all these programs in the camera that you set to produce a wide array of styles, intensities, colors or whatever.
Did you not process and manipulate the the photo no different than PSE?
Then why the big deal saying that the hyper modified image produced SOOC is in any way better or different than using PSE.
When posted and SOOC is mentioned like that is a badge of superiority of the camera when it is just a different way of messing with the photo.

rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona

Excellent point, or a badge of over-inflated ego on the part of the person posting.
--Bob

larryepage Loc: North Texas area

If we can get past the emotion and preconception, the answer is "maybe." There are multiple reasons this is true.

The first is that some subjects are conducive to being rendered exactly as shot, whether many (or most) are not.

The second is that a raw image is going to require conversion to a printable or displayable format. Some software used for this may recognize and apply camera adjustments, some (again perhaps most) may not.

That's really the answer to your question and the end of the story.

But the second question is whether the question as you have asked it represents a valid circumstance. I would suggest that it does not.

I shoot a lot of images at school that are submitted exactly as I originally shot them...with in-camera white balance, contrast, sharpness, and other settings applied as I have set them. I do not process these images, but submit them as I shot them. They are used on the school's website, in the yearbook, and in special publications. Other than some minor cropping, I am not aware of any further adjustment that has been made to them, although the yearbook publisher does sometimes make adjustments to make photographs work more successfully through their printing process.

So yes, no matter what the Kool-Aid here says, SOOC is a thing, it is possible, and it can be successfully used. But it isn't a raw thing. By the way...the most interesting SOOC images I have submitted are color negative images of the school exterior. I won't post them or tell you what they are for yet, but they were JPEGs created using the color negative copy function on my D850. No one has done or will do any processing on them since they left my camera.