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Oct 18, 2022 22:01:08   #
Dennis833 Loc: Australia
 
Dennis my dear friend, I’ve had a revelation. Well, sort of.

No, I haven’t spoken to god or seen bright light where there was no light. I’ve discovered something about photography, which you have known all along and remained faithful to, while I was smashing furniture looking for ‘the secret’.

What I’ve finally discovered after years of photographic vandalism on my part is that I should have remained faithful to my own instincts, as you have.

All the U-Tube videos I’ve watched on how to do this and how to do that – in short, how to make my photographs look like someone else’s - was poison and a shocking waste of time. I used lenses I wouldn’t normally have used; shot subjects not worth the effort; tried to save lousy photographs with over-processing; and ignored the correct exposure for the actual subject just to make a sky look good, then tried to pull three-stops out of the shadows.

Yep, I’ve committed all those sins. But not any more. I know we all take lousy photographs occasionally, because we’re compelled to take photographs, even bad ones, but from now I will photograph what I believe is worth the effort, not what Nick Page or Marc Adamus or some other U-Tube guru says I should photograph, and in a way he would do it.

I’m telling you all this is because I know you understand better than anyone the frustrations of photography, and because, for some strange reason, I have to get the silly subject off my chest. I’ve wasted so much time. So I’m sharing what I’ve learned because I now understand that there’s no reason to make photographs at all if you never make anything original, and surely that’s the point of the whole damn thing.

Oh yeah, and I wanted to send you and Barb a bit of love. There’s not enough love about. The whole damn world’s gone mad. Go and kiss your wife and tell her I love the both of you, you wonderful old bastard.

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Oct 18, 2022 22:23:38   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Oddly, I've probably watched many of those same videos. They helped me understand the various settings and methods so I could make the photographs look like I wanted them to look. I never tried to make mine look like someone else's.
--Bob
Dennis833 wrote:
Dennis my dear friend, I’ve had a revelation. Well, sort of.

No, I haven’t spoken to god or seen bright light where there was no light. I’ve discovered something about photography, which you have known all along and remained faithful to, while I was smashing furniture looking for ‘the secret’.

What I’ve finally discovered after years of photographic vandalism on my part is that I should have remained faithful to my own instincts, as you have.

All the U-Tube videos I’ve watched on how to do this and how to do that – in short, how to make my photographs look like someone else’s - was poison and a shocking waste of time. I used lenses I wouldn’t normally have used; shot subjects not worth the effort; tried to save lousy photographs with over-processing; and ignored the correct exposure for the actual subject just to make a sky look good, then tried to pull three-stops out of the shadows.

Yep, I’ve committed all those sins. But not any more. I know we all take lousy photographs occasionally, because we’re compelled to take photographs, even bad ones, but from now I will photograph what I believe is worth the effort, not what Nick Page or Marc Adamus or some other U-Tube guru says I should photograph, and in a way he would do it.

I’m telling you all this is because I know you understand better than anyone the frustrations of photography, and because, for some strange reason, I have to get the silly subject off my chest. I’ve wasted so much time. So I’m sharing what I’ve learned because I now understand that there’s no reason to make photographs at all if you never make anything original, and surely that’s the point of the whole damn thing.

Oh yeah, and I wanted to send you and Barb a bit of love. There’s not enough love about. The whole damn world’s gone mad. Go and kiss your wife and tell her I love the both of you, you wonderful old bastard.
Dennis my dear friend, I’ve had a revelation. Well... (show quote)

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Oct 18, 2022 22:34:18   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
Key phrase: "the correct exposure for the actual subject." It begs more thoughtful discussion.
Dennis833 wrote:
Dennis my dear friend, I’ve had a revelation. Well, sort of.

No, I haven’t spoken to god or seen bright light where there was no light. I’ve discovered something about photography, which you have known all along and remained faithful to, while I was smashing furniture looking for ‘the secret’.

What I’ve finally discovered after years of photographic vandalism on my part is that I should have remained faithful to my own instincts, as you have.

All the U-Tube videos I’ve watched on how to do this and how to do that – in short, how to make my photographs look like someone else’s - was poison and a shocking waste of time. I used lenses I wouldn’t normally have used; shot subjects not worth the effort; tried to save lousy photographs with over-processing; and ignored the correct exposure for the actual subject just to make a sky look good, then tried to pull three-stops out of the shadows.

Yep, I’ve committed all those sins. But not any more. I know we all take lousy photographs occasionally, because we’re compelled to take photographs, even bad ones, but from now I will photograph what I believe is worth the effort, not what Nick Page or Marc Adamus or some other U-Tube guru says I should photograph, and in a way he would do it.

I’m telling you all this is because I know you understand better than anyone the frustrations of photography, and because, for some strange reason, I have to get the silly subject off my chest. I’ve wasted so much time. So I’m sharing what I’ve learned because I now understand that there’s no reason to make photographs at all if you never make anything original, and surely that’s the point of the whole damn thing.

Oh yeah, and I wanted to send you and Barb a bit of love. There’s not enough love about. The whole damn world’s gone mad. Go and kiss your wife and tell her I love the both of you, you wonderful old bastard.
Dennis my dear friend, I’ve had a revelation. Well... (show quote)

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Oct 18, 2022 23:04:49   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
And therein lies the conundrum of what is "correct exposure"?
--Bob
anotherview wrote:
Key phrase: "the correct exposure for the actual subject." It begs more thoughtful discussion.

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Oct 18, 2022 23:37:34   #
User ID
 
Dennis833 wrote:
Dennis my dear friend, I’ve had a revelation. Well, sort of.

No, I haven’t spoken to god or seen bright light where there was no light. I’ve discovered something about photography, which you have known all along and remained faithful to, while I was smashing furniture looking for ‘the secret’.

What I’ve finally discovered after years of photographic vandalism on my part is that I should have remained faithful to my own instincts, as you have.

All the U-Tube videos I’ve watched on how to do this and how to do that – in short, how to make my photographs look like someone else’s - was poison and a shocking waste of time. I used lenses I wouldn’t normally have used; shot subjects not worth the effort; tried to save lousy photographs with over-processing; and ignored the correct exposure for the actual subject just to make a sky look good, then tried to pull three-stops out of the shadows.

Yep, I’ve committed all those sins. But not any more. I know we all take lousy photographs occasionally, because we’re compelled to take photographs, even bad ones, but from now I will photograph what I believe is worth the effort, not what Nick Page or Marc Adamus or some other U-Tube guru says I should photograph, and in a way he would do it.

I’m telling you all this is because I know you understand better than anyone the frustrations of photography, and because, for some strange reason, I have to get the silly subject off my chest. I’ve wasted so much time. So I’m sharing what I’ve learned because I now understand that there’s no reason to make photographs at all if you never make anything original, and surely that’s the point of the whole damn thing.

Oh yeah, and I wanted to send you and Barb a bit of love. There’s not enough love about. The whole damn world’s gone mad. Go and kiss your wife and tell her I love the both of you, you wonderful old bastard.
Dennis my dear friend, I’ve had a revelation. Well... (show quote)

A billboard sized AMEN to that

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Oct 18, 2022 23:42:45   #
User ID
 
rmalarz wrote:
And therein lies the conundrum of what is "correct exposure"?
--Bob

That hit me as an "everyday fact", a rather incidental routine piece of the larger picture ... not anything to be singled out nor put on a pedestal.

If it has special value in your eyes, I know you are capable of launching a thread dedicated to that.

(I will keep an eye out for it.)

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Oct 18, 2022 23:57:13   #
User ID
 
anotherview wrote:
Key phrase: "the correct exposure for the actual subject." It begs more thoughtful discussion.


While it never struck me as the "Key Phrase", I can see it as a whole new thread worth initiating.

But right here we have a post about a person "coming into their own" as an artisan or perhaps an artist, which has nothing to do with the minor issue of determining exposure settings.

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Oct 19, 2022 01:22:47   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
Dennis833 wrote:
Dennis my dear friend, I’ve had a revelation. Well, sort of.

No, I haven’t spoken to god or seen bright light where there was no light. I’ve discovered something about photography, which you have known all along and remained faithful to, while I was smashing furniture looking for ‘the secret’.

What I’ve finally discovered after years of photographic vandalism on my part is that I should have remained faithful to my own instincts, as you have.

All the U-Tube videos I’ve watched on how to do this and how to do that – in short, how to make my photographs look like someone else’s - was poison and a shocking waste of time. I used lenses I wouldn’t normally have used; shot subjects not worth the effort; tried to save lousy photographs with over-processing; and ignored the correct exposure for the actual subject just to make a sky look good, then tried to pull three-stops out of the shadows.

Yep, I’ve committed all those sins. But not any more. I know we all take lousy photographs occasionally, because we’re compelled to take photographs, even bad ones, but from now I will photograph what I believe is worth the effort, not what Nick Page or Marc Adamus or some other U-Tube guru says I should photograph, and in a way he would do it.

I’m telling you all this is because I know you understand better than anyone the frustrations of photography, and because, for some strange reason, I have to get the silly subject off my chest. I’ve wasted so much time. So I’m sharing what I’ve learned because I now understand that there’s no reason to make photographs at all if you never make anything original, and surely that’s the point of the whole damn thing.

Oh yeah, and I wanted to send you and Barb a bit of love. There’s not enough love about. The whole damn world’s gone mad. Go and kiss your wife and tell her I love the both of you, you wonderful old bastard.
Dennis my dear friend, I’ve had a revelation. Well... (show quote)

Reads like sarcasm to me...

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Oct 19, 2022 06:17:12   #
CamB Loc: Juneau, Alaska
 
Dennis833 wrote:
Dennis my dear friend, I’ve had a revelation. Well, sort of.

No, I haven’t spoken to god or seen bright light where there was no light. I’ve discovered something about photography, which you have known all along and remained faithful to, while I was smashing furniture looking for ‘the secret’.

What I’ve finally discovered after years of photographic vandalism on my part is that I should have remained faithful to my own instincts, as you have.

All the U-Tube videos I’ve watched on how to do this and how to do that – in short, how to make my photographs look like someone else’s - was poison and a shocking waste of time. I used lenses I wouldn’t normally have used; shot subjects not worth the effort; tried to save lousy photographs with over-processing; and ignored the correct exposure for the actual subject just to make a sky look good, then tried to pull three-stops out of the shadows.

Yep, I’ve committed all those sins. But not any more. I know we all take lousy photographs occasionally, because we’re compelled to take photographs, even bad ones, but from now I will photograph what I believe is worth the effort, not what Nick Page or Marc Adamus or some other U-Tube guru says I should photograph, and in a way he would do it.

I’m telling you all this is because I know you understand better than anyone the frustrations of photography, and because, for some strange reason, I have to get the silly subject off my chest. I’ve wasted so much time. So I’m sharing what I’ve learned because I now understand that there’s no reason to make photographs at all if you never make anything original, and surely that’s the point of the whole damn thing.

Oh yeah, and I wanted to send you and Barb a bit of love. There’s not enough love about. The whole damn world’s gone mad. Go and kiss your wife and tell her I love the both of you, you wonderful old bastard.
Dennis my dear friend, I’ve had a revelation. Well... (show quote)

I’ve spent my photo life and career trying to make my work and art look different then the guy next to me. I am impressed when I see someone else’s work and it is the shot I was trying to take but couldn’t define in my mind. This is a nice reminder.
…Cam.

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Oct 19, 2022 07:10:17   #
Manglesphoto Loc: 70 miles south of St.Louis
 
Dennis833 wrote:
Dennis my dear friend, I’ve had a revelation. Well, sort of.

No, I haven’t spoken to god or seen bright light where there was no light. I’ve discovered something about photography, which you have known all along and remained faithful to, while I was smashing furniture looking for ‘the secret’.

What I’ve finally discovered after years of photographic vandalism on my part is that I should have remained faithful to my own instincts, as you have.

All the U-Tube videos I’ve watched on how to do this and how to do that – in short, how to make my photographs look like someone else’s - was poison and a shocking waste of time. I used lenses I wouldn’t normally have used; shot subjects not worth the effort; tried to save lousy photographs with over-processing; and ignored the correct exposure for the actual subject just to make a sky look good, then tried to pull three-stops out of the shadows.

Yep, I’ve committed all those sins. But not any more. I know we all take lousy photographs occasionally, because we’re compelled to take photographs, even bad ones, but from now I will photograph what I believe is worth the effort, not what Nick Page or Marc Adamus or some other U-Tube guru says I should photograph, and in a way he would do it.

I’m telling you all this is because I know you understand better than anyone the frustrations of photography, and because, for some strange reason, I have to get the silly subject off my chest. I’ve wasted so much time. So I’m sharing what I’ve learned because I now understand that there’s no reason to make photographs at all if you never make anything original, and surely that’s the point of the whole damn thing.

Oh yeah, and I wanted to send you and Barb a bit of love. There’s not enough love about. The whole damn world’s gone mad. Go and kiss your wife and tell her I love the both of you, you wonderful old bastard.
Dennis my dear friend, I’ve had a revelation. Well... (show quote)


I have read a few articles, and tried to watch a couple of videos (can't stand most of the makers rattling on about this and that.
I have been doing this all my life sometimes successfully sometimes not.

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Oct 19, 2022 07:13:21   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
rmalarz wrote:
Oddly, I've probably watched many of those same videos. They helped me understand the various settings and methods so I could make the photographs look like I wanted them to look. I never tried to make mine look like someone else's.
--Bob



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Oct 19, 2022 07:26:38   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
In my quest to learn digital photography on my own, I came across a simple approach to a correct exposure for a given subject: Adjust for its black point and its white point along with its mid-gray point during post processing.
User ID wrote:
That hit me as an "everyday fact", a rather incidental routine piece of the larger picture ... not anything to be singled out nor put on a pedestal.

If it has special value in your eyes, I know you are capable of launching a thread dedicated to that.

(I will keep an eye out for it.)

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Oct 19, 2022 07:54:51   #
agillot
 
Vodka is the cure !!!!

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Oct 19, 2022 08:09:22   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
rmalarz wrote:
And therein lies the conundrum of what is "correct exposure"?
--Bob



For me; for you; for the "expert";...

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Oct 19, 2022 08:15:35   #
ecobin Loc: Paoli, PA
 
I don't watch photography videos as I have found them to be a waste of time. I do watch technical videos for each of my cameras and for Affinity Photo and have learned what I needed and am still learning.

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