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Nov 12, 2022 16:08:06   #
btbg
 
DennyT wrote:
But from what read the Ukrainian official that america/ biden forced out was not investigating burisma

“””Prosecutor was not investigating Burisma at the time Joe Biden called for his removal

Burisma Holdings was not under scrutiny at the time Joe Biden called for Shokin to be removed, per the National Anti-Corruption Bureau of Ukraine, an independent agency that has worked closely with the FBI.

In 2014, Shokin had investigated Burisma for money laundering and tax irregularities, per USA TODAY.
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/10/21/fact-check-joe-biden-leveraged-ukraine-aid-oust-corrupt-prosecutor/5991434002/
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Think through the whole matter. Your fact check shows that Shokin did investigate Burisma and that they were corrupt. Your fact check shows that Hunter joined Burisma either during or immediately following the investigation. Yes, they were not investigating Hunter at the time, but Shokin could well have started investigating Burisma again. Based on the fact check Burisma was corrupt and breaking the law. Based on the fact check Hunter was working for Burisma. And, based on the fact check Joe forced the prosecutor who had at least formerly investigated Burisma out. The reason he was forced out was supposedly for not investigating corrupt officials. Of course no one investigated either those officials or Burisma after Shokin was fired. Shokin was the only investigator who did investigate Burisma. Even if the quid pro quo was not directly to help Hunter it still looks rotten, and it still benefited Hunter in the long run, as neither he nor Burisma were investigated after Shokin was fired. So, in summary Biden forced the firing of the only person who ever bothered to investigate Burisma. So, his motive may or may not have been to help Hunter, but it certainly did help Hunter. It reeks of corruption from the Bidens, regardless of the fact check.

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Nov 13, 2022 09:50:43   #
BooIsMyCat Loc: Somewhere
 
btbg wrote:
I don't view it as demanding dirt on a political opponent. That is how the media has framed it, but I view it as asking for an investigation of what was at best a questionable business deal. Keep in mind that we have a reciprocal agreement with Ukraine regarding law enforcement. So, it is not uncommon for our country to ask their country to investigate business dealings or vice versus.

So, the only irregular thing involved in the whole deal was Trump making the request rather than his attorney general making the request. To put it simply Hunter deserved to be investigated. Burisma was giving a crack addict a massive amount of money for services that he had no qualifications to deliver. The obvious reason for that would be influence peddling. Do you not think that should be investigated?
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Trump reportedly decided to withhold hundreds of millions of dollars in military aid to Ukraine at least a week before the call with Zelensky.

“I would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it. I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine.” Trump appears to be referring in this instance to the origins of special counsel Robert Mueller’s Russia probe.

When it looks like a shake down...
When it smells like a shake down...
When it sounds like a shake down...

It usually IS a shake down.

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Nov 13, 2022 10:17:01   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
btbg wrote:
Think through the whole matter. Your fact check shows that Shokin did investigate Burisma and that they were corrupt. Your fact check shows that Hunter joined Burisma either during or immediately following the investigation. Yes, they were not investigating Hunter at the time, but Shokin could well have started investigating Burisma again. Based on the fact check Burisma was corrupt and breaking the law. Based on the fact check Hunter was working for Burisma. And, based on the fact check Joe forced the prosecutor who had at least formerly investigated Burisma out. The reason he was forced out was supposedly for not investigating corrupt officials. Of course no one investigated either those officials or Burisma after Shokin was fired. Shokin was the only investigator who did investigate Burisma. Even if the quid pro quo was not directly to help Hunter it still looks rotten, and it still benefited Hunter in the long run, as neither he nor Burisma were investigated after Shokin was fired. So, in summary Biden forced the firing of the only person who ever bothered to investigate Burisma. So, his motive may or may not have been to help Hunter, but it certainly did help Hunter. It reeks of corruption from the Bidens, regardless of the fact check.
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Nice try ..

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Nov 13, 2022 10:32:07   #
BooIsMyCat Loc: Somewhere
 
btbg wrote:
Think through the whole matter. Your fact check shows that Shokin did investigate Burisma and that they were corrupt. Your fact check shows that Hunter joined Burisma either during or immediately following the investigation. Yes, they were not investigating Hunter at the time, but Shokin could well have started investigating Burisma again. Based on the fact check Burisma was corrupt and breaking the law. Based on the fact check Hunter was working for Burisma. And, based on the fact check Joe forced the prosecutor who had at least formerly investigated Burisma out. The reason he was forced out was supposedly for not investigating corrupt officials. Of course no one investigated either those officials or Burisma after Shokin was fired. Shokin was the only investigator who did investigate Burisma. Even if the quid pro quo was not directly to help Hunter it still looks rotten, and it still benefited Hunter in the long run, as neither he nor Burisma were investigated after Shokin was fired. So, in summary Biden forced the firing of the only person who ever bothered to investigate Burisma. So, his motive may or may not have been to help Hunter, but it certainly did help Hunter. It reeks of corruption from the Bidens, regardless of the fact check.
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By his own admission:

Ron DeSantis' 2018 Rival Seeks Hearing After Trump Says He Intervened In Vote Count

You wanted to find voter fraud....

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