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Oct 16, 2022 01:12:43   #
travelwp Loc: New Jersey
 
Of Philadelphia's 386 fatal shooting victims, 186 were under 18 years old.

Yet the city's radical Democrat DA, Larry Krasner, is still standing behind his soft-on-crime policies.

Heartless.

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Oct 16, 2022 02:58:44   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
travelwp wrote:
Of Philadelphia's 386 fatal shooting victims, 186 were under 18 years old.

Yet the city's radical Democrat DA, Larry Krasner, is still standing behind his soft-on-crime policies.

Heartless.


Just another democrat hypocrite.

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Oct 16, 2022 07:40:45   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
travelwp wrote:
Of Philadelphia's 386 fatal shooting victims, 186 were under 18 years old.

Yet the city's radical Democrat DA, Larry Krasner, is still standing behind his soft-on-crime policies.

Heartless.


You're talking about a city that once bombed a residence and burnt down a neighborhood just to tell MOVE who's boss.

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Oct 16, 2022 10:08:31   #
travelwp Loc: New Jersey
 
thom w wrote:
You're talking about a city that once bombed a residence and burnt down a neighborhood just to tell MOVE who's boss.


Is that what they meant by "brotherly love" ?

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Oct 16, 2022 10:17:05   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
Aren’t all the “ big “ cities run by democrats.

People who live in cities get all their services from a. Government- trash fire police , transportation, utilities.
People who live in rural area are pretty near the opposite .
To me that’s why urban population are nearly always conservative and urban are nearly always liberal. It’s what they are accustomed to.

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Oct 16, 2022 10:26:24   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
DennyT wrote:
Aren’t all the “ big “ cities run by democrats.

People who live in cities get all their services from a. Government- trash fire police , transportation, utilities.
People who live in rural area are pretty near the opposite .
To me that’s why urban population are nearly always conservative and urban are nearly always liberal. It’s what they are accustomed to.


True, I guess you meant rural is conservative.
Also urban are heavily populated with welfare people in section 8 housing, free food, utilities, transportation, internet, clothes and cell phones so yes they want the government in power to steal from those who work so they can keep getting the government freebies stolen from the workers in flyover country.

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Oct 16, 2022 11:15:34   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
Architect1776 wrote:
True, I guess you meant rural is conservative.
Also urban are heavily populated with welfare people in section 8 housing, free food, utilities, transportation, internet, clothes and cell phones so yes they want the government in power to steal from those who work so they can keep getting the government freebies stolen from the workers in flyover country.


I looked it up for Philly . they pay pay 9 % sales tax and property tax for those services. So it not like they are getting those services for free . They are just used to paying for services.

And to characterize as you did us not accurate. With a population of near 6?million , people on those programs are less than 10%.

I would wager there is very little v difference in rural versus urban welfare rates. But it appears more in cities because it is concentrated rather than spread out in rural areas

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Oct 16, 2022 12:14:37   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
DennyT wrote:
I looked it up for Philly . they pay pay 9 % sales tax and property tax for those services. So it not like they are getting those services for free . They are just used to paying for services.

And to characterize as you did us not accurate. With a population of near 6?million , people on those programs are less than 10%.

I would wager there is very little v difference in rural versus urban welfare rates. But it appears more in cities because it is concentrated rather than spread out in rural areas
I looked it up for Philly . they pay pay 9 % sales... (show quote)


Those are the property owners who pass it on as rent to the government who pays the bill.
Also the free money on EBT cards is not earned by the users and thus the tax is irrelevant so the government just gets part of the EBT back.
There is Philly and there are suburbs.

According to Forbes:
"We've Crossed The Tipping Point; Most Americans Now Receive Government Benefits
Merrill Matthews Former Contributor
Jul 2, 2014,04:45pm EDT
This article is more than 8 years old.
Obamacare has pushed us over the entitlements tipping point. In 2011 some 49.2 percent of U.S. households received benefits from one or more government programs—about 151 million out of an estimated 306.8 million Americans—according to U.S. Census Bureau data released last October.

Currently, around 6 million to 7 million Americans who have signed up for Obamacare are receiving taxpayer-provided subsidies (though the administration’s numbers cannot be trusted, it’s all we have to work with). There are another 3 million who have signed up for Medicaid.

That means some 10 million Americans—or a total of about 161 million—are now getting government subsidies (though the final number might be somewhat lower since some may have been receiving benefits already).
Thus, perhaps 52 percent of U.S. households—more than half—now receive benefits from the government, thanks to President Obama. And Mr. Entitlement is just getting started. If Obamacare is not repealed millions more will join the swelling rolls of those dependent on government handouts.

Conservatives have long dreaded the day when the U.S. crossed the halfway mark because of all the implications for individual and fiscal responsibility. As Benjamin Franklin reportedly said, “When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.” They learned that from the 2008 election and turned out in big numbers again in 2012.

It’s not that all of those Americans are “takers,” as former Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney suggested. Some 42 million are seniors receiving Social Security and Medicare. They aren’t getting something for free; they faithfully paid into the system for decades with the expectation that they would be getting it back at retirement. And they deserve every penny they get—or may not get if Social Security or Medicare has to cut benefits.
But attitudes can change once people are on the receiving end of benefits, even if they are owed those benefits. Seniors who support limited government and fiscal responsibility—in short, the exact opposite of Obama’s policies—become very protective of their benefits. And that makes change difficult.

The bigger issue is the public at large. Conservatives worked so hard to repeal Obamacare over the past few years because once the taxpayer-provided subsidies started to flow, millions would embrace the entitlement and repeal would be very tough. Especially when the media start running stories about people losing their coverage because of heartless Republicans changing the law—although forcing millions to lose their coverage because of Obamacare didn’t stop liberals.

They knew if they were able to ride out the Obamacare rollout storm, the law would likely be here to stay. Franklin D. Roosevelt captured this mentality when he observed: “We put those payroll contributions there so as to give contributors a legal, moral and political right to collect their pensions.… With those taxes in there, no damn politician can ever scrap my social security program.”

And no politicians have; indeed, they have only grown the program over the years.

The country has crossed the entitlement tipping point. The only hope is to try to transition some of these programs, primarily Social Security but also Medicare, into personal retirement accounts. They would, over time, be better funded, actually belong to the worker or retiree, and, perhaps most importantly, they would take millions of Americans off the government benefits roll."

Merrill Matthews is a resident scholar at the Institute for Policy Innovation in Dallas, Texas. Follow at http://twitter.com/MerrillMatthews

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Oct 16, 2022 13:28:15   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Those are the property owners who pass it on as rent to the government who pays the bill.
Also the free money on EBT cards is not earned by the users and thus the tax is irrelevant so the government just gets part of the EBT back.
There is Philly and there are suburbs.

According to Forbes:
"We've Crossed The Tipping Point; Most Americans Now Receive Government Benefits
Merrill Matthews Former Contributor
Jul 2, 2014,04:45pm EDT
This article is more than 8 years old.
Obamacare has pushed us over the entitlements tipping point. In 2011 some 49.2 percent of U.S. households received benefits from one or more government programs—about 151 million out of an estimated 306.8 million Americans—according to U.S. Census Bureau data released last October.

Currently, around 6 million to 7 million Americans who have signed up for Obamacare are receiving taxpayer-provided subsidies (though the administration’s numbers cannot be trusted, it’s all we have to work with). There are another 3 million who have signed up for Medicaid.

That means some 10 million Americans—or a total of about 161 million—are now getting government subsidies (though the final number might be somewhat lower since some may have been receiving benefits already).
Thus, perhaps 52 percent of U.S. households—more than half—now receive benefits from the government, thanks to President Obama. And Mr. Entitlement is just getting started. If Obamacare is not repealed millions more will join the swelling rolls of those dependent on government handouts.

Conservatives have long dreaded the day when the U.S. crossed the halfway mark because of all the implications for individual and fiscal responsibility. As Benjamin Franklin reportedly said, “When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.” They learned that from the 2008 election and turned out in big numbers again in 2012.

It’s not that all of those Americans are “takers,” as former Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney suggested. Some 42 million are seniors receiving Social Security and Medicare. They aren’t getting something for free; they faithfully paid into the system for decades with the expectation that they would be getting it back at retirement. And they deserve every penny they get—or may not get if Social Security or Medicare has to cut benefits.
But attitudes can change once people are on the receiving end of benefits, even if they are owed those benefits. Seniors who support limited government and fiscal responsibility—in short, the exact opposite of Obama’s policies—become very protective of their benefits. And that makes change difficult.

The bigger issue is the public at large. Conservatives worked so hard to repeal Obamacare over the past few years because once the taxpayer-provided subsidies started to flow, millions would embrace the entitlement and repeal would be very tough. Especially when the media start running stories about people losing their coverage because of heartless Republicans changing the law—although forcing millions to lose their coverage because of Obamacare didn’t stop liberals.

They knew if they were able to ride out the Obamacare rollout storm, the law would likely be here to stay. Franklin D. Roosevelt captured this mentality when he observed: “We put those payroll contributions there so as to give contributors a legal, moral and political right to collect their pensions.… With those taxes in there, no damn politician can ever scrap my social security program.”

And no politicians have; indeed, they have only grown the program over the years.

The country has crossed the entitlement tipping point. The only hope is to try to transition some of these programs, primarily Social Security but also Medicare, into personal retirement accounts. They would, over time, be better funded, actually belong to the worker or retiree, and, perhaps most importantly, they would take millions of Americans off the government benefits roll."

Merrill Matthews is a resident scholar at the Institute for Policy Innovation in Dallas, Texas. Follow at http://twitter.com/MerrillMatthews
Those are the property owners who pass it on as re... (show quote)



And you burn gas from
Subsidized oil, drive of government funded roads and if you use free wifi who pays for that ? All Americas receive govt benefits other

Tired of people picking and choosing which government benifit is worthy and which isn’t.

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Oct 16, 2022 17:21:46   #
rwoodvira
 
[quote=travelwp]

The legislature is trying to impeach Krasner. Here's a brief article:
https://theintercept.com/2022/09/30/pennsylvania-larry-krasner-impeach/

Philly is currently like the Wild West. But part of the problem is easy access to guns and ammunition. One of the guys that attacked high school football players in Roxborough killing one several weeks ago was a convicted felon; he couldn't buy a gun because of his record, but he was allowed to buy 100 rounds of 40 caliber ammunition. The rules apply to guns, not ammo.

I recently bought a lens to use at the Chinese later festival - my wife and I chickened out from going with the amount of gun violence and murdersover there. I'll use it somewhere else (Sigma 35mm f2 - really pleased so far).

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Oct 16, 2022 17:42:16   #
travelwp Loc: New Jersey
 
rwoodvira wrote:
The legislature is trying to impeach Krasner..


I hope they are successful !

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Oct 17, 2022 09:13:01   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
DennyT wrote:
Aren’t all the “ big “ cities run by democrats.

People who live in cities get all their services from a. Government- trash fire police , transportation, utilities.
People who live in rural area are pretty near the opposite .
To me that’s why urban population are nearly always conservative and urban are nearly always liberal. It’s what they are accustomed to.


What are you talking about? I have lived out of town on a ranch in Colorado. I STILL paid for all of those things plus paid extra for a volunteer fire department to protect the nearby ranches. Do you ever have a clue what the hell you are talking about? Seems NOT.

Dennis

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Oct 17, 2022 09:32:23   #
davidrb Loc: Half way there on the 45th Parallel
 
travelwp wrote:
Of Philadelphia's 386 fatal shooting victims, 186 were under 18 years old.

Yet the city's radical Democrat DA, Larry Krasner, is still standing behind his soft-on-crime policies.

Heartless.


Hizzonor Frank Rizzo had no trouble such as these fools permit. When dumocrats are confronted with this softness they scream "Black Lives Matter!" and all will be well. When schools become "Killing Fields" they scream "Guns Kill" and blame commercial greed.

Imagine how pleasurable life will be when the Dumocrats go the same way the communist party went-AWAY! Most Americans will miss them NOT!

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Oct 17, 2022 10:49:28   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
This fact bears repeating in any discussion of who receives governmental benefits:

"Some 42 million are seniors receiving Social Security and Medicare. They aren’t getting something for free; they faithfully paid into the system for decades with the expectation that they would be getting it back at retirement."

Both of these social programs have existed for decades.
Architect1776 wrote:
Those are the property owners who pass it on as rent to the government who pays the bill.
Also the free money on EBT cards is not earned by the users and thus the tax is irrelevant so the government just gets part of the EBT back.
There is Philly and there are suburbs.

According to Forbes:
"We've Crossed The Tipping Point; Most Americans Now Receive Government Benefits
Merrill Matthews Former Contributor
Jul 2, 2014,04:45pm EDT
This article is more than 8 years old.
Obamacare has pushed us over the entitlements tipping point. In 2011 some 49.2 percent of U.S. households received benefits from one or more government programs—about 151 million out of an estimated 306.8 million Americans—according to U.S. Census Bureau data released last October.

Currently, around 6 million to 7 million Americans who have signed up for Obamacare are receiving taxpayer-provided subsidies (though the administration’s numbers cannot be trusted, it’s all we have to work with). There are another 3 million who have signed up for Medicaid.

That means some 10 million Americans—or a total of about 161 million—are now getting government subsidies (though the final number might be somewhat lower since some may have been receiving benefits already).
Thus, perhaps 52 percent of U.S. households—more than half—now receive benefits from the government, thanks to President Obama. And Mr. Entitlement is just getting started. If Obamacare is not repealed millions more will join the swelling rolls of those dependent on government handouts.

Conservatives have long dreaded the day when the U.S. crossed the halfway mark because of all the implications for individual and fiscal responsibility. As Benjamin Franklin reportedly said, “When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.” They learned that from the 2008 election and turned out in big numbers again in 2012.

It’s not that all of those Americans are “takers,” as former Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney suggested. Some 42 million are seniors receiving Social Security and Medicare. They aren’t getting something for free; they faithfully paid into the system for decades with the expectation that they would be getting it back at retirement. And they deserve every penny they get—or may not get if Social Security or Medicare has to cut benefits.
But attitudes can change once people are on the receiving end of benefits, even if they are owed those benefits. Seniors who support limited government and fiscal responsibility—in short, the exact opposite of Obama’s policies—become very protective of their benefits. And that makes change difficult.

The bigger issue is the public at large. Conservatives worked so hard to repeal Obamacare over the past few years because once the taxpayer-provided subsidies started to flow, millions would embrace the entitlement and repeal would be very tough. Especially when the media start running stories about people losing their coverage because of heartless Republicans changing the law—although forcing millions to lose their coverage because of Obamacare didn’t stop liberals.

They knew if they were able to ride out the Obamacare rollout storm, the law would likely be here to stay. Franklin D. Roosevelt captured this mentality when he observed: “We put those payroll contributions there so as to give contributors a legal, moral and political right to collect their pensions.… With those taxes in there, no damn politician can ever scrap my social security program.”

And no politicians have; indeed, they have only grown the program over the years.

The country has crossed the entitlement tipping point. The only hope is to try to transition some of these programs, primarily Social Security but also Medicare, into personal retirement accounts. They would, over time, be better funded, actually belong to the worker or retiree, and, perhaps most importantly, they would take millions of Americans off the government benefits roll."

Merrill Matthews is a resident scholar at the Institute for Policy Innovation in Dallas, Texas. Follow at http://twitter.com/MerrillMatthews
Those are the property owners who pass it on as re... (show quote)

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Oct 17, 2022 11:34:27   #
travelwp Loc: New Jersey
 
davidrb wrote:
Imagine how pleasurable life will be when the Dumocrats go the same way the communist party went-AWAY! Most Americans will miss them NOT!



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