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Nov 4, 2012 04:42:53   #
Clicker2014 Loc: Canada
 
I am thinking of purchasing a 60D (now am using T2i). I have been reading the comparisons to 50D, 60D and 7D. I do a lot of nature photography and macro too. I don't do portraits. I have a couple of questions regarding specs on the 60D.
1.No flash sync socket - I do a fair amount of macro work and just got a flash for this type of work. Will the no sync socket be a problem with macro work?
2. no AF micro-adjust - I have a Sigma 150 2.8 lens. I did some reading on what the micro-adjust does. My question would be...does anyone have major problems with with this not being on their camera?
3. New features: in-camera raw conversion. I am assuming that this is just a feature that can be turned off (raw conversion.

I don't see any of these items mentioned on the 7D. Also on the 7D it does not have the flip out LCD and it uses the compact flash cards rather than the SD cards. I am now wondering if I should go up to the 7D rather than the 60D despite preferring the flip out LCD and SD cards.

Your thoughts are appreciated.

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Nov 4, 2012 07:52:47   #
JR1 Loc: Tavistock, Devon, UK
 
I have no problems with flash macro or macro with a 60D


http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad121/jser1/baloon2-2.jpg

http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad121/jser1/lrktjhgkerhkerhkyj-1.jpg

http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad121/jser1/ma2.jpg

Why would you need a "sync" socket, all the flashes will connect to the hot shoe either direct or via cable

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Nov 4, 2012 08:07:06   #
Clicker2014 Loc: Canada
 
Nice shots :-) I have never used an external flash so it is all new to me. Thanks for getting back to me...especially since you use the 60D! Appreciated!
JR1 wrote:
I have no problems with flash macro or macro with a 60D


http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad121/jser1/baloon2-2.jpg

http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad121/jser1/lrktjhgkerhkerhkyj-1.jpg

http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad121/jser1/ma2.jpg

Why would you need a "sync" socket, all the flashes will connect to the hot shoe either direct or via cable

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Nov 4, 2012 08:33:24   #
bioteacher Loc: Brooklyn, NY
 
Clicker2014 wrote:
I am thinking of purchasing a 60D (now am using T2i). I have been reading the comparisons to 50D, 60D and 7D. I do a lot of nature photography and macro too. I don't do portraits. I have a couple of questions regarding specs on the 60D.
1.No flash sync socket - I do a fair amount of macro work and just got a flash for this type of work. Will the no sync socket be a problem with macro work?
2. no AF micro-adjust - I have a Sigma 150 2.8 lens. I did some reading on what the micro-adjust does. My question would be...does anyone have major problems with with this not being on their camera?
3. New features: in-camera raw conversion. I am assuming that this is just a feature that can be turned off (raw conversion.

I don't see any of these items mentioned on the 7D. Also on the 7D it does not have the flip out LCD and it uses the compact flash cards rather than the SD cards. I am now wondering if I should go up to the 7D rather than the 60D despite preferring the flip out LCD and SD cards.

Your thoughts are appreciated.
I am thinking of purchasing a 60D (now am using T2... (show quote)

Go to the macro section and check out the O rings (Nikonian has a picture there). They attach to your external flash attached to your hot shoe flash (not the pop-up one that comes with the camera).

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Nov 4, 2012 09:07:08   #
JR1 Loc: Tavistock, Devon, UK
 
FORGET FLASH

Look up RING FLASH LIGHT,

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Macro-Light-Olympus-Pentax-A380-A450/dp/B003LAGNSO

I use one all the time, they are great, variable settings, flash or full, and a bargain. ALSO if you are not sure what to buy you have not spent much

The 1/4" microchip was shot with it.

Also a hot shoe mounted flash with a softbox it a bargain and simple, I use these on THREE guns when shooting closeup, triggerd by radio, AND YES, BELIEVE IT, THAT IS THE PRICE





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Nov 4, 2012 09:16:26   #
JR1 Loc: Tavistock, Devon, UK
 
My shots are with EOS60D and 100mm Canon macro

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Nov 4, 2012 09:17:43   #
JR1 Loc: Tavistock, Devon, UK
 
When I say forget flash I mean Ringflash.

There are two pieces of equipment I will never bee seen without.

My Flashgun(S) and My Tripod(S)

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Nov 4, 2012 12:17:41   #
bioteacher Loc: Brooklyn, NY
 
JR1 wrote:
FORGET FLASH

Look up RING FLASH LIGHT,

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Macro-Light-Olympus-Pentax-A380-A450/dp/B003LAGNSO

I use one all the time, they are great, variable settings, flash or full, and a bargain. ALSO if you are not sure what to buy you have not spent much

The 1/4" microchip was shot with it.

Also a hot shoe mounted flash with a softbox it a bargain and simple, I use these on THREE guns when shooting closeup, triggerd by radio, AND YES, BELIEVE IT, THAT IS THE PRICE
FORGET FLASH br br Look up RING FLASH LIGHT, br ... (show quote)


Where did you get the diffuser boxes from - please provide link

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Nov 4, 2012 12:31:31   #
gordnanaimo Loc: Vancouver Island
 
The canon 60d is a fine camera, however for the price and add a few more bucks or look for a deal, get the 7d. I have a 5d which is a big step up in pocket book and quality due to the full frame sensor, But I used to own a 7D and I quite honestly see much difference in the quality. In fact the 7D has some advantages over the 5D, 7d has a built in flash which is good for snapshots. You should use an off camera flash for better results. but feature to feature and dollar to dollar the 7D is the answer.

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Nov 4, 2012 14:30:24   #
JR1 Loc: Tavistock, Devon, UK
 
bioteacher wrote:
JR1 wrote:
FORGET FLASH

Look up RING FLASH LIGHT,

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Macro-Light-Olympus-Pentax-A380-A450/dp/B003LAGNSO

I use one all the time, they are great, variable settings, flash or full, and a bargain. ALSO if you are not sure what to buy you have not spent much

The 1/4" microchip was shot with it.

Also a hot shoe mounted flash with a softbox it a bargain and simple, I use these on THREE guns when shooting closeup, triggerd by radio, AND YES, BELIEVE IT, THAT IS THE PRICE
FORGET FLASH br br Look up RING FLASH LIGHT, br ... (show quote)


Where did you get the diffuser boxes from - please provide link
quote=JR1 FORGET FLASH br br Look up RING FLASH ... (show quote)


Ebay, just type in the name in the photos

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Nov 4, 2012 14:31:54   #
JR1 Loc: Tavistock, Devon, UK
 
gordnanaimo wrote:
The canon 60d is a fine camera, however for the price and add a few more bucks or look for a deal, get the 7d. I have a 5d which is a big step up in pocket book and quality due to the full frame sensor, But I used to own a 7D and I quite honestly see much difference in the quality. In fact the 7D has some advantages over the 5D, 7d has a built in flash which is good for snapshots. You should use an off camera flash for better results. but feature to feature and dollar to dollar the 7D is the answer.
The canon 60d is a fine camera, however for the pr... (show quote)


BUT the 7D does not have the articulated screen which I find invaluable in macro and closeup, AND the full frame sensor is no good for sports where people want the benefits of a cropped sensor.

Horsews for courses

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Nov 4, 2012 20:41:05   #
gordnanaimo Loc: Vancouver Island
 
JR1 wrote:
gordnanaimo wrote:
The canon 60d is a fine camera, however for the price and add a few more bucks or look for a deal, get the 7d. I have a 5d which is a big step up in pocket book and quality due to the full frame sensor, But I used to own a 7D and I quite honestly see much difference in the quality. In fact the 7D has some advantages over the 5D, 7d has a built in flash which is good for snapshots. You should use an off camera flash for better results. but feature to feature and dollar to dollar the 7D is the answer.
The canon 60d is a fine camera, however for the pr... (show quote)


BUT the 7D does not have the articulated screen which I find invaluable in macro and closeup, AND the full frame sensor is no good for sports where people want the benefits of a cropped sensor.

Horsews for courses
quote=gordnanaimo The canon 60d is a fine camera,... (show quote)


Well this is the first I've heard of a full fram being no good for sports. I will have to let all the newspaper and magazine photographers who use Canon 1X and 1D's with full frame sensors they are now considered no good. Thanks for the insight.

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Nov 4, 2012 20:55:02   #
Clicker2014 Loc: Canada
 
Thank you both for your info. Greatly appreciated. JR...one more question. You use your flashgun with the diffuser for macro's correct? I have a Sigma 150 which is a big lens (way too big for a novice like me actually). But is a good quality lens. How do you manage to get enough light with the regular flashgun? Would I be imposing to ask if you could either explain how you would set up your camera and flash or give me a picture of a setup sometime? No rush of course! If not that is o.k. I will do some more reading and searching and ask questions as I go. Thanks again for your help. I think I have decided on the 60D. I like the fully-articulated screen very much along with other features. Cheers!
JR1 wrote:
gordnanaimo wrote:
The canon 60d is a fine camera, however for the price and add a few more bucks or look for a deal, get the 7d. I have a 5d which is a big step up in pocket book and quality due to the full frame sensor, But I used to own a 7D and I quite honestly see much difference in the quality. In fact the 7D has some advantages over the 5D, 7d has a built in flash which is good for snapshots. You should use an off camera flash for better results. but feature to feature and dollar to dollar the 7D is the answer.
The canon 60d is a fine camera, however for the pr... (show quote)


BUT the 7D does not have the articulated screen which I find invaluable in macro and closeup, AND the full frame sensor is no good for sports where people want the benefits of a cropped sensor.

Horsews for courses
quote=gordnanaimo The canon 60d is a fine camera,... (show quote)

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Nov 5, 2012 03:20:22   #
JR1 Loc: Tavistock, Devon, UK
 
gordnanaimo wrote:
JR1 wrote:
gordnanaimo wrote:
The canon 60d is a fine camera, however for the price and add a few more bucks or look for a deal, get the 7d. I have a 5d which is a big step up in pocket book and quality due to the full frame sensor, But I used to own a 7D and I quite honestly see much difference in the quality. In fact the 7D has some advantages over the 5D, 7d has a built in flash which is good for snapshots. You should use an off camera flash for better results. but feature to feature and dollar to dollar the 7D is the answer.
The canon 60d is a fine camera, however for the pr... (show quote)


BUT the 7D does not have the articulated screen which I find invaluable in macro and closeup, AND the full frame sensor is no good for sports where people want the benefits of a cropped sensor.

Horsews for courses
quote=gordnanaimo The canon 60d is a fine camera,... (show quote)


Well this is the first I've heard of a full fram being no good for sports. I will have to let all the newspaper and magazine photographers who use Canon 1X and 1D's with full frame sensors they are now considered no good. Thanks for the insight.
quote=JR1 quote=gordnanaimo The canon 60d is a f... (show quote)


Most of the sports photographers I know in the business use the benefits of the cropped sensor for the extra focal length offered.

I know of no sports photographers who use the FFS, there are of course many, but the benefits of the CS outweigh the FFS.

Birders, people who shoops sports loke me favor the croped sensor.

And another exageration, where, please tell me where, I said it is NO good for sports, I did not.

I stated

no good for sports where people want the benefits of a cropped sensor ( WHERE PEOPLE WANT THE BENEFIT OF A CROPPED SENSOR).

Please do not mis quote.

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Nov 5, 2012 03:29:25   #
JR1 Loc: Tavistock, Devon, UK
 
Clicker2014 wrote:
Thank you both for your info. Greatly appreciated. JR...one more question. You use your flashgun with the diffuser for macro's correct? I have a Sigma 150 which is a big lens (way too big for a novice like me actually). But is a good quality lens. How do you manage to get enough light with the regular flashgun? Would I be imposing to ask if you could either explain how you would set up your camera and flash or give me a picture of a setup sometime? No rush of course! If not that is o.k. I will do some more reading and searching and ask questions as I go. Thanks again for your help. I think I have decided on the 60D. I like the fully-articulated screen very much along with other features. Cheers!
JR1 wrote:
gordnanaimo wrote:
The canon 60d is a fine camera, however for the price and add a few more bucks or look for a deal, get the 7d. I have a 5d which is a big step up in pocket book and quality due to the full frame sensor, But I used to own a 7D and I quite honestly see much difference in the quality. In fact the 7D has some advantages over the 5D, 7d has a built in flash which is good for snapshots. You should use an off camera flash for better results. but feature to feature and dollar to dollar the 7D is the answer.
The canon 60d is a fine camera, however for the pr... (show quote)


BUT the 7D does not have the articulated screen which I find invaluable in macro and closeup, AND the full frame sensor is no good for sports where people want the benefits of a cropped sensor.

Horsews for courses
quote=gordnanaimo The canon 60d is a fine camera,... (show quote)
Thank you both for your info. Greatly appreciated... (show quote)


150, have you seen the reviews of that lens, they are superb, it is PERFECT for macro especially where wildlife is concerned because it keeps you well away from the subject.

As for lioghting.

The RINGLIGHT, this is what I use

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VYYLlncWn8

However THIS was taken with the attached setup. A Prolight bouncer with a gold insert attached to on camera flash

DO NOT spend more that in reality is needed.

http://store.lumiquest.com/bounce-devices/

EOS60D, with Metz 44 AF-1 flash and Lumiquest.







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