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Aug 14, 2022 11:22:11 #
There are obviously times when dynamic range is not a primary concern.
Thank you Capt. obvious.
But most times...you want maximum dynamic range...period.
You're paying for it after all.
Can a photographer find a way to make lesser quality images look nice...sure...but it's just that much more work in post processing...and you'll never get there.
No...your goal is to bake in the full dynamic range as much as possible.
Depending on your gear of course...kit gear...who cares...you have other problems.
Depending on your skill level.
Anyone can take lesser images.
The skill is getting the same shots at 100 when everyone else has moved up.
Thank you Capt. obvious.
But most times...you want maximum dynamic range...period.
You're paying for it after all.
Can a photographer find a way to make lesser quality images look nice...sure...but it's just that much more work in post processing...and you'll never get there.
No...your goal is to bake in the full dynamic range as much as possible.
Depending on your gear of course...kit gear...who cares...you have other problems.
Depending on your skill level.
Anyone can take lesser images.
The skill is getting the same shots at 100 when everyone else has moved up.
Aug 14, 2022 11:25:29 #
Sidwalkastronomy wrote:
Whatevvvvvver .......... ISO, ASA, DIN, Weston etc etcIso not asa
Technically, I never use any of them. I always prefer the tested EI.
Aug 14, 2022 11:35:54 #
Canisdirus wrote:
There are obviously times when dynamic range is no... (show quote)
Your standards are just for geeks, with little connection to actual photography, especially as concerns printing and electronic displays.
There always *plenty* of DR at nearly any ISO. You correctly state how to get even more DR but that will also mean getting less of everything else that goes into making a photograph.
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Aug 14, 2022 18:23:26 #
User ID wrote:
Your standards are just for geeks, with little connection to actual photography, especially as concerns printing and electronic displays.
There always *plenty* of DR at nearly any ISO. You correctly state how to get even more DR but that will also mean getting less of everything else that goes into making a photograph.
There always *plenty* of DR at nearly any ISO. You correctly state how to get even more DR but that will also mean getting less of everything else that goes into making a photograph.
Uh...no.
It's for people who wish to understand how to get the most from their efforts.
If you don't think dynamic range is a big selling point in high end photography...you are not paying attention.
It makes a difference in the images.
Aug 14, 2022 22:12:08 #
Canisdirus wrote:
Uh...no.
It's for people who wish to understand how to get the most from their efforts.
If you don't think dynamic range is a big selling point in high end photography...you are not paying attention.
It makes a difference in the images.
It's for people who wish to understand how to get the most from their efforts.
If you don't think dynamic range is a big selling point in high end photography...you are not paying attention.
It makes a difference in the images.
They are NOT getting more for their efforts. They are getting slightly more of one thing, dynamic range. To get that by lowering ISO you get LESS of the other important parameters, shutter speed and DoF. There being plenty of DR available well above base ISO theres no gain in compromising the shutter speed and DoF.
Base ISO is TERRIFIC for shooting flat copy. Theres no need for DoF, theres no motion, so why not minimize noise and maximize DR when you copy flat art ? Acoarst you use base ISO for that. But for real world subjects you consider ALL variables and make useful trade offs. You dont concentrate on one variable at the expense of the others.
Aug 14, 2022 23:32:54 #
And if your subject calls for more dynamic range than the sensor can capture at the necessary ISO, there are the in-camera HDR or DRO functions, or auto bracketing and a post processing app on RAW files. These options often allow you to go beyond the sensor's DR limit, no matter how good that might be.
So to my mind there is seldom a logical reason to limit ISO because of DR concerns.
So to my mind there is seldom a logical reason to limit ISO because of DR concerns.
Aug 15, 2022 09:04:38 #
User ID wrote:
They are NOT getting more for their efforts. They ... (show quote)
I never said to only concentrate on iso.
Shooting flat copy? lol...no dof..no motion...who cares? Has nothing to do with getting all the dynamic range your camera can give you in every shot you take.
No one should care what the dof variable is...or if there is motion or not...when deciding to use maximum dynamic range.
You don't have to of course. Use the camera with less quality...doesn't bother me a bit.
The skill comes from getting the MOST from your camera...not an average.
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Aug 15, 2022 14:03:43 #
Canisdirus wrote:
I never said to only concentrate on iso. br Shooti... (show quote)
Nope. Youre getting the most from your sensor, and ONLY your sensor, not the entire versatile multifaceted tool that is your camera.
Aug 15, 2022 20:46:10 #
User ID wrote:
Nope. Youre getting the most from your sensor, and ONLY your sensor, not the entire versatile multifaceted tool that is your camera.
Somehow...you have managed to say...nothing at all.
Aug 15, 2022 23:46:23 #
Sidwalkastronomy
Loc: New Jersey Shore
Canisdirus wrote:
Somehow...you have managed to say...nothing at all.
Are you surprised??
Read all his tweets
Aug 16, 2022 08:20:14 #
Sidwalkastronomy wrote:
Are you surprised??
Read all his tweets
Read all his tweets
A long time ago...when I was dating my future wife...we went to a bar after picking up her and her 3 friends. They all worked at a bank, and I swung by and the bar was just down the block.
Well the four of them order their rounds...while I racked a pool table.
This guy sidles up to my gf and starts bragging about...stuff...you know the type.
It was so obvious to everyone...but him.
At first the gals just wanted to rebuff him...but I had a better idea...just go along with him I said...believe his tall tales...let him feel comfortable...we'll drink all night for free.
That guy spent over 400 bucks on them (I paid my tab as I went)...each story less believable. He really thought he was fooling everyone.
Finally, near the end of the night...we're blotto...I go to the can and the 'dude' is in there...wobbling.
I said my goodbyes there...wished him luck and told him he needed a new game plan.
I think it must have been User ID that night...uncanny parallels.
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