The Bad News and the Good News: The Bad News: According to the overwhelming evidence presented by the 1/6 Committee (largely sworn testimony of Trump administration insiders) Trump...

Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal

The Bad News:

According to the overwhelming evidence presented by the 1/6 Committee (largely sworn testimony of Trump administration insiders) Trump sought to illegally, trough one scheme after another, overturn a free and fair election, subvert, or even overthrow our Government and bring the American experiment in self-governance to a tragic end.

The Good News:

We don't have to worry about Hillary's e-mails.

So there's that.

btbg

Bazbo wrote:

The Bad News:

According to the overwhelming evidence presented by the 1/6 Committee (largely sworn testimony of Trump administration insiders) Trump sought to illegally, trough one scheme after another, overturn a free and fair election, subvert, or even overthrow our Government and bring the American experiment in self-governance to a tragic end.

The Good News:

We don't have to worry about Hillary's e-mails.

So there's that.

You are apparently not watching the same hearings that the rest of us are. What I'm seeing is administration insiders telling us that Trump is a sore loser, refuses to accept defeat, and says some bad things. They have presented no evidence that he tried to subvert or overthrow the government.

On the contrary there is plenty of evidence that he asked for National Guard troops for 1/6. There is also proof that his speech at his rally couldn't have instigated the riots as those people were already at the capitol before he even began speaking.

Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal

btbg wrote:

You are apparently not watching the same hearings ... (show quote)

So the Fake Electors scheme was just Trump saying some bad things? And pressuring the SoS of GA to falsify election results was just Trump saying some bad things? Musing that his own VP deserved to be hanged was just Trump saying some bad things? And witness tampering is just Trump just saying some bad things? The list goes on and on. "Just saying some bad things" covers a lot of ground.

You are right. We are not watching the same hearings.

btbg

Bazbo wrote:

So the Fake Electors scheme was just Trump saying some bad things? And pressuring the SoS of GA to falsify election results was just Trump saying some bad things? Musing that his own VP deserved to be hanged was just Trump saying some bad things? And witness tampering is just Trump just saying some bad things? The list goes on and on. "Just saying some bad things" covers a lot of ground.

You are right. We are not watching the same hearings.

The fake elector scheme was Eastwood, or whatever his name is, not Trump. And, the recording of the conversation with the secretary of state of Georgia did not sound like pressure to me. Haven't actually seen any evidence of witness tampering either.

There is lots of evidence that people in Trump's inner circle may have done things they could be charged with. No evidence that Trump did anything has been presented yet. Name one thing that the committee has taken testimony for that directly implicates Trump. Just one. I will be waiting.

Overthehill1

btbg wrote:

The fake elector scheme was Eastwood, or whatever ... (show quote)

Someone has a comprehension problem.

btbg

Overthehill1 wrote:

Someone has a comprehension problem.

I repeat, tell me one thing that the committee has released that directly implicates Trump. Just one. Instead of claiming I have a comprehension problem just tell me what the evidence is.

jcboy3

btbg wrote:

You are apparently not watching the same hearings ... (show quote)

Being in a position of leadership, and being a sore loser, refusing to accept defeat, saying some bad things, and sitting on his butt while his minions went about trying to overthrow the election, is the exact circmstance of trying to subvert or overthrow the government. For which a full on criminal investigation of all his minions is warranted: to find out how much he was personally involved in the chicanery.

Being a sore loser should be sufficient grounds to invalidate his political future, but apparently a lot of people just don't care.

Overthehill1

Of course Trump was operating in a vacuum and had no knowledge of what was going on around him. Is that what you believe? Are you actually watching the hearings? You're a defense attorney's dream.

DaveO Loc: Northeast CT

btbg wrote:

You are apparently not watching the same hearings ... (show quote)

Texcaster Loc: Queensland

Overthehill1 wrote:

Someone has a comprehension problem.

My bloody oath! Indeed, MAGA comprehension is an oxymoron!

As as of Feb 2022 40% of Americans 'believe' the election was stolen from Trump ... despite zero evidence of fraud.

This is a more dire problem for the US than just the 'gun problem' ... these cultistas are the gun apologists and the packers as well.

The MAGAarmy's support has ALWAYS been a legendary, rock solid 38% ... he's picked up 2 points!!

These credulous zombies may get their Mike Pence 'comeuppance wish' granted real soon.

Trump is running out of options and is going to plan 'D' ... to give Mike Pence both barrels on 5th Ave for letting Trump down on Jan 6.

This simple act of MAGAvigilantism will make the mom&pop ... *'Freedom For Donald Trump' ... fund soar.

* he's keeping the money MAGAs.

He's double billed most of you by now?

btbg

jcboy3 wrote:

Being in a position of leadership, and being a sor... (show quote)

None of that is criminal and you know it. If that's the best you've got on Trump then the committee is wasting it's time. I expected that after listening to what hearings have already happened you had nothing on Trump despite your posturing. You have just confirmed that.

rwoodvira

Here's where things are happening:
Arizona: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/arizona-election-interference-investigation-secretary-of-state-katie-hobbs/

Georgia: https://www.vice.com/en/article/xgyx7k/georgia-trump-rico-charge-likely

Federal: https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook/2022/07/13/an-unmistakable-map-to-charges-against-trump-00045527

New York: https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-obscure-law-new-york-prosecutors-could-use-to-charge-donald-trump-years-from-now

Georgia is a real shot, plus the Jan. 6 committee has not tied everything together, from what I’ve seen they will.

jcboy3

btbg wrote:

None of that is criminal and you know it. If that's the best you've got on Trump then the committee is wasting it's time. I expected that after listening to what hearings have already happened you had nothing on Trump despite your posturing. You have just confirmed that.

Oh, it most certainly could be criminal. But the committee is not a criminal investigation of Trump. Although all roads seem to lead there.

The purpose of the committee is to get to the facts of the uprising. And the conspiracies revolving around the Trump lie. And there seem to be a lot. So a criminal investitation of Trump is certainly warranted. And "lock him up" is a pertinent catch phrase.

Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!

Bazbo wrote:

So the Fake Electors scheme was just Trump saying some bad things? And pressuring the SoS of GA to falsify election results was just Trump saying some bad things? Musing that his own VP deserved to be hanged was just Trump saying some bad things? And witness tampering is just Trump just saying some bad things? The list goes on and on. "Just saying some bad things" covers a lot of ground.

You are right. We are not watching the same hearings.

Seriously, why do you lie so much?

Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!

jcboy3 wrote:

Oh, it most certainly could be criminal. But the committee is not a criminal investigation of Trump. Although all roads seem to lead there.

The purpose of the committee is to get to the facts of the uprising. And the conspiracies revolving around the Trump lie. And there seem to be a lot. So a criminal investitation of Trump is certainly warranted. And "lock him up" is a pertinent catch phrase.

Only a complete blind moron would believe that this is not a criminal investigation.