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Jul 9, 2022 18:45:20   #
Just Fred Loc: Darwin's Waiting Room
 
A lot of the replies are of the "could-a, should-a, would-a" type. If I'd had my filter with me, I'd have used it. But as they say, you use the camera you have, not the one you want.

So, my question still is, how can I remove the reflection in post? Is it possible? (I actually used the Erase feature in Luminar Neo to "deaden" the reflection, but I couldn't get rid of it entirely).

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Jul 9, 2022 18:56:51   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
Just Fred wrote:
A lot of the replies are of the "could-a, should-a, would-a" type. If I'd had my filter with me, I'd have used it. But as they say, you use the camera you have, not the one you want.

So, my question still is, how can I remove the reflection in post? Is it possible? (I actually used the Erase feature in Luminar Neo to "deaden" the reflection, but I couldn't get rid of it entirely).


I don't know Luminar Neo, I'm a Photoshop guy from the start. Does Luminar have a clone tool? That's what I would use. But it would be tedious closeup work, not a push button solution.

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Jul 9, 2022 19:17:53   #
Just Fred Loc: Darwin's Waiting Room
 
JohnSwanda wrote:
I don't know Luminar Neo, I'm a Photoshop guy from the start. Does Luminar have a clone tool? That's what I would use. But it would be tedious closeup work, not a push button solution.

Photoshop has always been a cause of major frustration for me. It's one reason I've shopped elsewhere: Lightroom, Luminar, ON1... Truth be told, I'm not up to speed on layers and masking, so I've used the healing brush for things like this. Except the reflections are everywhere, and there's too much confusion in all other areas of the scene, that "healing" would be arduous and likely apparent even after the effort.

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Jul 9, 2022 19:48:41   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
PS CC 'solution'

► Create a duplicate layer (Ctrl-J). Or not, just for safety, in case you paint on the wrong layer.
► Create an empty fill layer above the duplicate, you will paint on it and turn it on/off to check the results. (Shift-Ctrl-N)
► Make sure the empty layer is selected (white corners around the layer thumbnail).
► Select the brush tool (B). The following is set using the tool option bar.
 → Set the Brush blend mode color.
 → Set the flow to 50% or less.
 → Set the brush size (+ '[', - ']') and hardness (+ Shift-[, - Shift-]).
 → Set the opacity to 30% or less (Experiment).
► Select color using the probe and paint over (Alt-Click).
► Paint.
You will need to resample the color source frequently.
Use the fade edit (Shif-Ctrl-F). to change the opacity of the previous paint action.

Any mistake or redo you need is simply a matter of deleting the area using the eraser tool (E)
Note: B and E assume the default tool is used, if not, set them as the default.

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Jul 9, 2022 20:05:48   #
E.L.. Shapiro Loc: Ottawa, Ontario Canada
 
Just Fred wrote:
A lot of the replies are of the "could-a, should-a, would-a" type. If I'd had my filter with me, I'd have used it. But as they say, you use the camera you have, not the one you want.

So, my question still is, how can I remove the reflection in the post? Is it possible? (I actually used the Erase feature in Luminar Neo to "deaden" the reflection, but I couldn't get rid of it entirely).


Soor about my long woulda-coulda-shoulda reply. You did, however, mention that you tried to use an ND filter to mitigate reflections and I thought you would want o correct that misconception.

Taking out reflections in these shots would be a major editing job. If you cloned out the glare, you would need to replace the texture like in the grill cloth of the amps etc. "Tedious and arduous" do not adequately describe that kinda work unless you are an expert retoucher. That is why it is best to address unwanted reflection when shooting.

At my studio, I employ a full-time retoucher that knows all the tricks of his trade and can pull off all kinds of crazy manipulations, however, that is expensive work. So, for quick minor corrections, I use the less sophisticated software.

Obviously, if you shot that on a vacation trip, you are not about to go back and reshoot. If you want to have a go at retouching I would suggest Inpexio software. It simplifies "erasing and cloning". Attaced is a quick and dirty edit of your shot- 5 minutes of work. Some reflections still remain but they are not as distracting- they look like other artifacts in the background. That software also provides dodging and burning-in features- not more detail in the horns and the speaker enclosure. Downloading the software is not terribly expensive and is quite handy.



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Jul 9, 2022 20:44:05   #
User ID
 
Najataagihe wrote:
Original ULHgo Ultimate Lens Hood - if you can touch the glass.


You didnt look at the example pix ?!?

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Jul 9, 2022 20:47:46   #
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Gene51 wrote:
A circular polarizer "may" help. If the angle of incidence of the reflection is around 56° it will work, otherwise it will just reduce light by up to two stops, and you'll have to raise ISO, open the aperture on the lens and/or use a slower shutter speed.

Photo 101: There is no free lunch.

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Jul 9, 2022 20:52:22   #
jcboy3
 
Just Fred wrote:
A lot of the replies are of the "could-a, should-a, would-a" type. If I'd had my filter with me, I'd have used it. But as they say, you use the camera you have, not the one you want.

So, my question still is, how can I remove the reflection in post? Is it possible? (I actually used the Erase feature in Luminar Neo to "deaden" the reflection, but I couldn't get rid of it entirely).


You remove the reflection by substituting something else. If it's a dark area without significant subject, you can just paint it or clone it. If the reflection is covering significant subject, then you will have to create something. Won't be a photograph.

In the future, if you don't have a CPL, then take photos from slightly different positions (different enough to reveal what is hidden by the reflection) and then reconstruct the correct perspective and combine the images.

I do this frequently when I need to remove reflections from my subject.

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Jul 9, 2022 22:07:18   #
Just Fred Loc: Darwin's Waiting Room
 
E.L.. Shapiro wrote:
Soor about my long woulda-coulda-shoulda reply. You did, however, mention that you tried to use an ND filter to mitigate reflections and I thought you would want o correct that misconception.

Taking out reflections in these shots would be a major editing job. If you cloned out the glare, you would need to replace the texture like in the grill cloth of the amps etc. "Tedious and arduous" do not adequately describe that kinda work unless you are an expert retoucher. That is why it is best to address unwanted reflection when shooting.

At my studio, I employ a full-time retoucher that knows all the tricks of his trade and can pull off all kinds of crazy manipulations, however, that is expensive work. So, for quick minor corrections, I use the less sophisticated software.

Obviously, if you shot that on a vacation trip, you are not about to go back and reshoot. If you want to have a go at retouching I would suggest Inpexio software. It simplifies "erasing and cloning". Attaced is a quick and dirty edit of your shot- 5 minutes of work. Some reflections still remain but they are not as distracting- they look like other artifacts in the background. That software also provides dodging and burning-in features- not more detail in the horns and the speaker enclosure. Downloading the software is not terribly expensive and is quite handy.
Soor about my long woulda-coulda-shoulda reply. Yo... (show quote)

That was very handy and helpful, E. L. Thank you.

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Jul 10, 2022 08:08:28   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
JohnSwanda wrote:
No easy way, but if he has clone tool skills, plenty of time, and patience, he could do a pretty good fix.


Yeah, like many activities - time and patience. It can be done, but painstakingly.

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Jul 10, 2022 08:15:33   #
davidrb Loc: Half way there on the 45th Parallel
 
Just Fred wrote:
I took some photos this week at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in Cleveland, OH this week. Almost all of the displays are behind glass. In some case, such as the photos below, the glass is reflecting images from other displays. I have found that in some cases, a ND filter can eliminate most, if not all, reflected images, but I had none with me. So I'm wondering if there is a way to remove (or at least minimize) them in post-processing?

(For the curious, the photos are of the unique amplification rig designed and developed by guitarist John Cipollina, one of the leading guitar players in the heyday of San Francisco's acid-rock sound).
I took some photos this week at the Rock and Roll ... (show quote)


In its early days the Rock prohibited any cameras in the place. They were checked in the coat check area. NO PHOTOGRAPHY ALLOWED signs were prominently displayed. Cell phones shot that philosophy all to hell. We are visiting next month and I am looking for information concerning camera usage now. Are interchangeable lenses allowed? Can I carry a gear bag? Will lens hoods be allowed? Inquiring minds want to know!

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Jul 10, 2022 09:48:25   #
Just Fred Loc: Darwin's Waiting Room
 
davidrb wrote:
In its early days the Rock prohibited any cameras in the place. They were checked in the coat check area. NO PHOTOGRAPHY ALLOWED signs were prominently displayed. Cell phones shot that philosophy all to hell. We are visiting next month and I am looking for information concerning camera usage now. Are interchangeable lenses allowed? Can I carry a gear bag? Will lens hoods be allowed? Inquiring minds want to know!


From the Rock and Roll HOF web site FAQ:
Quote:

Can I take pictures and videos?
Yes! Just turn off your flash and don't grab a photo in the Connor Theater (where photos unfortunately aren't allowed) or near any exhibit with a "No Photography" sign.

I did see some people using flash, but based on their accent, probably didn't know (or care about) the rules.

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Jul 10, 2022 10:10:54   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
Just Fred wrote:
I did see some people using flash, but based on their accent, probably didn't know (or care about) the rules.


And they'll find that not following the rules will give them bad photos trying to shoot through glass with a flash.

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Jul 10, 2022 10:16:05   #
Dickwood33 Loc: Alberta, Canada
 
Wild idea. In LrC, try masking the area with the reflections. Using the brush tool and work the dehaze slider. I was astounded what this did for a moon shot for me. I KNOW, how does this relate to the OP's dilemma? No Idea just suggesting something outside the box to try.

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Jul 10, 2022 10:40:11   #
JBRIII
 
1. First I agreed with responses who such yes, but not simple, there are a myriad of methods for defining objects for remote sensing, etc. which could be applied, but nothing I knew of is push button, user friendly software, much of it being just descriptions in mathematical terms where are beyond me.
2. That said, I have an eclipse photo somewhere with a very bright red blog off to the side due to internal reflection, but when opened in PixInsight (astro oriented software) vanished, don't know how, but obviously possible.
3. Searched "remove reflections in photos" using BING and several references said use "CLONING" tool. I unfortunately don't know enough to tell you how that works

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