charles brown Loc: Tennesse

I shoot mainly landscapes, flowers and the occasional bird. Am 81 years old and camera handling and weight is becoming an issue for me.

All set to buy a Canon RP mirrorless camera with the 24-105 4-7.1 lens. However, questions keep popping up in my head:

1. Is the Canon R worth the additional cost?

2. Balance and handling have been mentioned as a problem when the 24-105 F4 is used with the Canon RP.
Experience anyone?

3. Both the Canon R and RP have been around a while. Understand Canon will be coming out with some new
models later this year Will the new ones replace the R and RP?

4. I feel like I should get the 24-105 F4 lens if I was to buy the Canon R. Thereby increasing the overall purchase
price substantially. Your thoughts on this?

Zooman 1

Wait until you can get the R7or R10, consider getting one with the 18-150mm lens. Just my 2 cents.

Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.

If you mainly shoot landscapes and flowers why not get a 35mm prime lens? 28mm & 50mm are also good prime lens options for that type of photography.

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

What camera are you considering replacing, if any? Is the budget fixed? Personally, I prefer cameras with IBIS so that any mounted lens gets stabilization.

The EOS R and RP are showing their age. Great cameras, still even now, but Canon has taken some design lessons from these first two models and added improvements into the newer models. If you'll only use IS-enabled lenses, the IBIS is less important. We can help with ideas, maybe better ideas, with a bit more background on your decision making.

Bbarn Loc: Ohio

The RP with 24-105 f/4-7.1 makes for a very comfortable full frame package.
1) If it has some particular feature(s) you want.
2) No experience with that combo.
3) Nothing but guesses at this point in time.
4) I would say it depends on the expectations and intended use of the camera system. I will say that in general the RP is both simpler and less sophisticated than the R. Would you favor simplicity or sophistication?

rcarol

I have the 24-105 f:4.0-7.1 mounted on a Canon RP. It's a great combination. The lens is sharp and balances well on the RP.

wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado

This will be an unexpected suggestion. Consider buying an OMDS/Olympus OM-1 with a 12-100 f4 Pro IS lens (24-200 in 35mm terms). It only 2.36 pounds (camera and body), capable of 0.3-0.21 close ups (0.6-0.42 in 35mm terms, or ~1/2 life-size), handheld 25mp JPEG/50mp JPEG/80mp RAW High Resolution shots for landscapes, built-in ND filters, 6.5 and up to 8 stops of Image Stabilization (lens dependent), Starry Sky mode, Live Composite mode, and many other modes. The OM-1 is $2200 and the 12-100 is $1400. If this is too costly, try switching out the OM-1 for the E-M1 mkIII ($1600). Still has handheld High Resolution (only 50mp JPEG/80mp RAW), some ND filters, 6.5 to 7.5 stops Image Stabilization, Starry Sky mode, Live Composite mode, and many other modes (but no Artificial Intelligence mode). The OM-1 has a stacked sensor which has ISO similar as a typical full frame and over 1000 focal/exposure points while the E-M1 mkIII has a standard sensor (2 stops less ISO than standard full frame) and less focal/exposure points.

Yes, it is not full frame or APS-C. But it is a very great travel system (24-200 in 35mm terms, both bodies and lens weatherproof, no tripod needed), meets most of your indicated needs (including overall reduction in weight), and offers some of the sensor technology of full frame camera bodies that are $4500 and up.

charles brown Loc: Tennesse

Thank you for taking the time to discuss the merits of the Olympus system. As good as it is I will remain committed to purchasing the Canon camera. Again, thank you

LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY

Since weight is a consideration you should be aware that the 24-105 f/4-7.1 weighs 14oz while the 24-105 f/4 L weighs almost 25oz. May not seem like a lot, but, it can make a considerable difference at the end of the day. Do you know what your current equipment weighs? You won't know if you are gaining an advantage or not unless you do.

MountainDave

I use a RP w/24-105 4L for long hikes and backpacks. I never had any balance issues. The combo works very well, especially landscapes. The combo weighs precisely 44.7 oz. with cap, hood, batter and strap. I am 71.

ncribble Loc: Albuquerque, NM

Charles, You are right on course for an excellent light rig. I made this same move 18 months ago to the RP and 24 105 4-7.1 and would never go back. At one time all my lens had to be 'L', but not now. Hang the RP and lens around me neck with an Op/Tech sling and I'm good for at least a half a day. Most importantly the images are great.

I just last week received the R7 and order it primarily because of the IBIS and for bird shooting. I've the 16mm and the 24 150 to work with the R7, and will probably add the RF 100 400, also a light lens.

The jury will be still out or a while to see is if this combination is better or not. For background I just turned 89 on the 4th. Keep a Shooting youngster.

suntouched Loc: Sierra Vista AZ

Good Morning
I have the R6 and 24-105 f4 lens. It is of reasonable size and weight and comfortable to carry around and the output is excellent. The lens is a handy focal length. The R6 is the first full frame camera that I have owned in many years and the image quality and detail continues to astound me. I have just done my granddaughter's post HS graduation pictures and my brother's new business portraits. It's something to consider in your quest for your next purchase. (If not the R6 then maybe the R/RP). Canon has released the R7/ and not sure about the R10 but they are not full frame cameras if that makes a difference to you.

suntouched Loc: Sierra Vista AZ

Hi- where did you get your R7 from? I am still waiting.... Good to know they are going out.

wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado

If the Olympus system does not interest you, then I would suggest the RP with the 24-105 f4 L lens. I would choose the 24-105 f4L lens over the smaller, lighter, and cheaper 24-105 f4/7.1 lens. Although one can shoot at 105 wide open at f7.1, it would / could cause problems in low light shooting. Wide open f4 at 105, versus f7.1 and just under 2 stops difference, is the trade-off for the extra size, weight (less than a pound), and cost which I would consider worthwhile. And, as IBIS gets better, the RP can be replaced at any time (if ever).

PhotosBySteve

I've had the EOS-R w/24-105 f/4 since it first came out. I still love it!!!
The EOS-R is the best camera I've ever owned.
Line up of prior digital cameras, I still own; EOS-7D, EOS-6D, Sony 7R-mk2.
The only disappointment with any of the bodies, is the Sony.
The R w/24-105 f/4 will not save much weight over equivalent digital cameras. A few ounces at best. But it is a dream to use. Even for this old guy. Only 69 years young