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Canon 60d Continuos shooting
Jul 1, 2022 11:36:09   #
cony25
 
I owned this camera until it wore out and gave up on me. Took it to the beach, and it worked in all kinds of conditions, extreme heat and extreme cold. One day it just gave out :(

I have never had a camera so fast when it came to continuous shooting.

Which cameras would be similar to this trophy camera nowadays?

Would it be even worth trying to take it to a repair shop?

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Jul 1, 2022 11:41:45   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
cony25 wrote:
...Which cameras would be similar to this trophy camera nowadays?....


R7.

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Jul 1, 2022 12:44:44   #
clickety
 
cony25 wrote:
I owned this camera until it wore out and gave up on me. Took it to the beach, and it worked in all kinds of conditions, extreme heat and extreme cold. One day it just gave out :(

I have never had a camera so fast when it came to continuous shooting.

Which cameras would be similar to this trophy camera nowadays?

Would it be even worth trying to take it to a repair shop?


If you want to stay DSLR then the 90D would be an excellent upgrade with a 33 MP sensor, Digic8 processor and 12 frames per second. It’s A crop sensor like the 60D but much improved.

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Jul 1, 2022 12:51:45   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
An EOS 60D dates to 2010 and discontinued around 2013 when the EOS 70D was released. The camera was rated to 5 frames per second, plenty fast enough for most everything, but rather pedestrian relative to both new cameras (especially mirrorless) and more sports-dedicated models. For example, the end of this line of EOS DSLRs, the EOS 90D, performs at 10 fps.

The repair is unlikely to be economically viable. KEH has used copies at $260. Even if you could find one around $200 on ebay, that same amount would probably be better spent on a newer camera rather than a replacement / repair.

"Gave out" is not every descriptive, although may be accurate for just dying. If changing batteries with a battery known to work in another camera and the camera won't even turn on, well, probably just time to move on.

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Jul 1, 2022 12:54:51   #
cony25
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
An EOS 60D dates to 2010 and discontinued around 2013 when the EOS 70D was released. The camera was rated to 5 frames per second, plenty fast enough for most everything, but rather pedestrian relative to both new cameras (especially mirrorless) and more sports-dedicated models. For example, the end of this line of EOS DSLRs, the EOS 90D, performs at 10 fps.

The repair is unlikely to be economically viable. KEH has used copies at $260. Even if you could find one around $200 on ebay, that same amount would probably be better spent on a newer camera rather than a replacement / repair.

"Gave out" is not every descriptive, although may be accurate for just dying. If changing batteries with a battery known to work in another camera and the camera won't even turn on, well, probably just time to move on.
An EOS 60D dates to 2010 and discontinued around 2... (show quote)




Starting to have cameras that are old, broken down....what should I do with all of them? Mark II, 60d, t1, etc

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Jul 1, 2022 13:02:32   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
cony25 wrote:
Starting to have cameras that are old, broken down....what should I do with all of them? Mark II, 60d, t1, etc


Everyday you hold onto a camera you don't use, they get less valuable.

Broken equipment sells fast 'as parts' on ebay. If you know it's broken, just list broken / as-is on ebay and let the bidding process determine the value.

The buyer of last result, for operational equipment, is KEH. They'll only pay the 'blue book' or 'wholesale' price. But, shipping is free to them and you get some cash back for something that is just taking up space in your place.

Listing here at UHH is hit or miss. Higher-end equipment is more likely to sell. Older consumer-grade just sits with no interest, even when priced to sell. It doesn't cost anything but your time to try to sell on UHH / ebay / similar, before just defaulting to KEH (or MPB, similar).

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Jul 1, 2022 13:13:37   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
It is probably not worth repairing your old 60D. They are selling used for $200 to $300 and it would almost certainly cost more than that to fix anything that failed in the camera, if the parts needed are even available.

That said, by today's standards the 60D was "slow".

Canon 80D is no longer in production, but is widely available to buy used, new ($1100) and sometimes even refurbished (at Canon USA website, same condition & warranty as new). 80D would be a modest step up in virtually every way. It has a superior 24MP sensor (compared to 18MP), can shoot at 7 frames/sec (compared to 5 fps), and has a more advanced, higher performance 45-point AF system.

60D compared to 80D: https://cameradecision.com/compare/Canon-EOS-80D-vs-Canon-EOS-60D

The Canon 90D is the current model replacing the 80D, 70D, 60D etc. that preceded it. It's a further step up in a number of ways, most notably with a 32.5MP sensor (the most in any APS-C camera) and ability to shoot at 10 frames/sec. It's selling for $1200, body-only (only $100 more than a new 80D).

60D compared to 90D: https://cameradecision.com/compare/Canon-EOS-90D-vs-Canon-EOS-60D

Another discontinued, but superior model is the Canon 7D Mark II. This is more of a "pro" grade camera than the xxD series. It has dual memory card slots, a higher durability rating, better sealing for greater weather resistance, a magesium body shell. It is not a high megapixel camera, though with 20MP it's more than your 60D. The 7DII has the one of the best AF systems Canon ever put into a DSLR... a 65-point array that's unique to this model. It is able to shoot at 10 fps and has a large buffer so that it can do so almost continuously until your memory card is full. 7DII are only available used or occasionally might be found refurbished (at Canon USA website). Used they are typically selling for $600 to $700 (were $1800 new when first introduced).

Compare 60D with 7D Mark II: https://cameradecision.com/compare/Canon-EOS-7D-Mark-II-vs-Canon-EOS-60D

All the above are DSLRs that can directly use any lenses you now have for your 60D. These models also use the same LP-E6 series batteries (those have been upgraded twice, LP-E6NH is the newest version, with higher capacity). All three of the above can be fitted with a battery grip to double capacity and provide secondary controls for portrait orientation shooting. The 80D and 90D share the same BG-E14 that also was used on the earlier 70D. The 7D Mark II uses a unique BG-E16 grip that's one of the best Canon has made.

Right now might be an opportunity for you to make the "leap" from DLSR to a mirrorless camera. As some here on UHH like to frequently tell us, "DLSRs are dinosaurs. Mirrorless are the future." Okay, they exaggerate a little, but they also aren't wrong. Mirrorless are the cameras of the future and are where Canon and most other manufacturers are putting all their R&D. Canon has discontinued some of their DLSRs and a lot of the EF/EF-S lenses that fit them, while at the same time they are introducing new R-series cameras along with new RF mount lenses for them. (Note: It IS possible to adapt and use Canon EF/EF-S lenses on the R-series cameras. Those will work quite well. So it's not immediately necessary to buy a whole kit of new lenses. However, eventually most people who switch to the mirrorless will want to shift over to the new mount lenses, I'm sure.)

Mirrorless cameras offer some serious advancements over DSLRs. They also have a few shortcomings, but those will not effect many people's use. Most will find the mirrorless advantages greatly outweigh the few minor shortcomings. If interested in mirrorless, you should do some more research about the differences... about the pluses and minuses of both types of interchangeable lens camera.

Canon has just introduced two APS-C cameras in their mirrorless R-series. Until now, they have only offered rather pricey full frame models. But in late May they announced the R7 and R10, which use a sensor the same format as your 60D's (and all the above DLSRs). These cameras are so new that the links provided below and any reviews you see online are largely based upon the published specifications and marketing materials, rather than real world use of the cameras. R7 are just getting into people's hand the past week, so a few "early impressions" reviews can be found. The R10 is not yet available, so there are no "real" reviews of it.

The Canon R10 is the more entry-level model. It will not be in stores until mid-July and will cost $979, body-only ($1100 with RF 18-45mm kit lens or $1379 with RF 18-150mm upgrade kit lens). These cameras have a fantastically capable AF system that's based upon the one being used in Canon's current most advanced, $6000 R3 "pro" camera. The R10 is a 24MP camera that can shoot at 15 frames/sec with it's mechanical shutter (or silently at up to 23 fps with an electronic shutter, although that may be limiting in some ways).

Compare 60D with R10: https://cameradecision.com/compare/Canon-EOS-R10-vs-Canon-EOS-60D

Canon R7 is a more advanced model with a somewhat higher price tag. However, even at $1499 it's a whole lot of camera for the money! ($1899 in kit with RF 18-150mm lens.) It shares the AF system and 15 frames/sec capable mechanical shutter with the R10. With it's electronic shutter it can take 30 frames per second (again, with some limitations)! The R7 also has in-body image stabilization (IBIS) that can work in conjunction with lens IS to give 7 or 8 stops worth of assistance! The R7 also appears to inherit the 32.5MP sensor from the 90D.

Compare 60D with R7: https://cameradecision.com/compare/Canon-EOS-R7-vs-Canon-EOS-60D

Both these mirrorless cameras have amazing AF systems that's worth expanding upon. They can not only identify and lock onto faces, they can find and maintain focus on people's and animals' eyes. They also can identify and track vehicles and more distant subjects. Until you see one of these AF systems in action, you may not believe what they can do. There are some videos on YouTube showing similar cameras in action. The R3 in particular, to a slightly lesser degree R5 an R6.

Like most mirrorless, both these have an Electronic Viewfinder (EVF). This is both a plus and a minus. It's a plus for all the neat things it can do. It can show you an "exposure simulation" so that you know immediately if your settings are good and can keep your eye to the viewfinder while adjusting the settings by feel. It also can replay images in the viewfinder, or display a histogram, or an electronic level. There are all kinds of neat tricks possible. But it also requires constant power (goes completely black when the camera is asleep or turned off). And this uses battery power faster. So you won't typically get as many shots per battery charge with mirrorless, compared to recent DSLRs. However, the R7 does pretty well with an LP-E6NH... rated to do 660 shots. The R10 uses a smaller LP-E17 battery and gets fewer shots per charge: about 450. In both cases, you can likely get more shots with some simple power saving measures. But for comparison the 90D with an optical viewfinder that uses far less power and an LP-E6N battery is rated to get 1300 shots per charge.

In order to use any Canon EF/EF-S lenses you currently have on either R10 or R7 you will need an adapter that costs $100. There are less expensive 3rd party adapters, as well as more expensive ones that have additional features (such as a control ring or drop-in filters).

You should do some research to help you decide if you should switch to mirrorless, as well as for more info on any of the above or other models that interest you. A good place to start researching Canon gear is The-Digital-Picture.com website. Bryan has been reviewing Canon gear for many years and does a very thorough job of it. Of course his review of the R10 is not based on hands-on use of the camera yet, more of a "preview", I suppose. He does appear to have gotten an R7 and started using it (I don't agree with his premise that it's a mirrorless continuation of the 7D-series cameras... I think it's more a mirrorless 90D. But that's a minor quibble.)

https://www.the-digital-picture.com/

EDIT #1: Canon has an older, APS-C format mirrorless system... Their M-series. You'll see those and the EF-M lenses they use listed at the above website. I am not recommending the M-series cameras as a replacement for your 60D for several reasons. First, they are likely to be phased out (Canon just discontinued one of the three models avail. in the US). Now that there are APS-C format R-series, I expect those will eventually replace the M-series completely. Another reason I'm not recommending M-series is that the selection of EF-M lenses is very minimal. In over eight years of production Canon has only developed eight lenses for these cameras! In comparison, in three and half years they already have twenty six lenses for the R-series cameras and are predicting to double that within the next two or three years. There also has been very little 3rd party support for the M-series system. There are only a half dozen AF capable lenses (two manufacturers: Sigma and Viltrox). In comparison, there were a couple hundred 3rd party AF capable lenses for the EF/EF-S mount and we are starting to see some for the R-system. Finally, while you can adapt EF/EF-S lenses for use on M-series OR R-series cameras.... you cannot adapt the EF-M lenses for use on anything else.

EDIT #2: If you look up the specifications of the 90D you will see that the camera can actually shoot at 11 frames per second. However, that is only possible with the AF and metering "locked". And in my opinion, that would rarely be practical. When using faster frame rates it's typically to shoot a moving subjects, in which case it would be very unusual to be able to use "locked" autofocus. For that reason, I always cite 10 frames/sec. for 90D. That is what it can do with continuous AF an is more realistic, IMO. Not to mention, even "just" 10 fps is pretty darned fast for a DSLR!

Hope this helps! Have fun shopping!

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