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Jun 2, 2022 17:04:27   #
LDB415 Loc: Houston south suburb
 
The main problem with gun violence is there is no gun violence. The left brings it out every chance they get, but there is no gun violence. No. Gun. Violence. Violence is a human trait, a human action. There isn't a single inanimate object that can be violent, whether a gun, a hammer, a toaster, a fork, a car, a trampoline or any other object. Only humans can be violent. And humans can and will be violent with most any inanimate object.

We have an ongoing problem because the left by far and some others continue to incorrectly identify the problem and refuse to act on the problem. It doesn't fit their agenda. So to further their agenda they cry over gun violence and demand more laws that will only infringe on the rights of good, honest citizens. But they know that. It follows and promotes their plan for that to happen.

If we want to eliminate most mass violence we have to act against the violent, not their chosen implement.

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Jun 2, 2022 17:23:15   #
tradio Loc: Oxford, Ohio
 
Exactly....

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Jun 2, 2022 17:26:17   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
LDB415 wrote:
The main problem with gun violence is there is no gun violence. The left brings it out every chance they get, but there is no gun violence. No. Gun. Violence. Violence is a human trait, a human action. There isn't a single inanimate object that can be violent, whether a gun, a hammer, a toaster, a fork, a car, a trampoline or any other object. Only humans can be violent. And humans can and will be violent with most any inanimate object.

We have an ongoing problem because the left by far and some others continue to incorrectly identify the problem and refuse to act on the problem. It doesn't fit their agenda. So to further their agenda they cry over gun violence and demand more laws that will only infringe on the rights of good, honest citizens. But they know that. It follows and promotes their plan for that to happen.

If we want to eliminate most mass violence we have to act against the violent, not their chosen implement.
The main problem with gun violence is there is no ... (show quote)


Well stated.
People run over others and it is not called automobile violence.

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Jun 2, 2022 20:29:51   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
LDB415 wrote:
The main problem with gun violence is there is no gun violence. The left brings it out every chance they get, but there is no gun violence. No. Gun. Violence. Violence is a human trait, a human action. There isn't a single inanimate object that can be violent, whether a gun, a hammer, a toaster, a fork, a car, a trampoline or any other object. Only humans can be violent. And humans can and will be violent with most any inanimate object.

We have an ongoing problem because the left by far and some others continue to incorrectly identify the problem and refuse to act on the problem. It doesn't fit their agenda. So to further their agenda they cry over gun violence and demand more laws that will only infringe on the rights of good, honest citizens. But they know that. It follows and promotes their plan for that to happen.

If we want to eliminate most mass violence we have to act against the violent, not their chosen implement.
The main problem with gun violence is there is no ... (show quote)


Take the guns away from “the violent” and there will be less “gun violence”. The distinction is meaningless.

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Jun 2, 2022 20:55:52   #
LDB415 Loc: Houston south suburb
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
Take the guns away from “the violent” and there will be less “gun violence”. The distinction is meaningless.


You figure out how to do that while only infringing on them and not any good honest citizens and you have room to talk. Your foolish statement above just says let them be violent with other inanimate objects. No surprise though.

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Jun 3, 2022 04:38:35   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
LDB415 wrote:
You figure out how to do that while only infringing on them and not any good honest citizens and you have room to talk. Your foolish statement above just says let them be violent with other inanimate objects. No surprise though.


Your wordplay does nothing to help the devastated families, or deter the path of the mentally disturbed who are loading their AR15’s, and planning an event.

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Jun 3, 2022 07:20:15   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
Your wordplay does nothing to help the devastated families, or deter the path of the mentally disturbed who are loading their AR15’s, and planning an event.


And pray tell how does one stop the mentally ill?
Put them away in anticipation of them possibly committing a crime?
In the USA there is a presumption of freedom until a crime is committed.
Disarming, registering or otherwise harassing law abiding citizens only raises crime as Chicago proved.
PS, they had 38 people murdered this past weekend in the streets. Not a word about them. Why?

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Jun 3, 2022 07:23:00   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
Your wordplay does nothing to help the devastated families, or deter the path of the mentally disturbed who are loading their AR15’s, and planning an event.


your bullshit solves nothing either

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Jun 3, 2022 08:20:07   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Well stated.
People run over others and it is not called automobile violence.


It is sometimes called road rage.

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Jun 3, 2022 08:20:46   #
LDB415 Loc: Houston south suburb
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
Your wordplay does nothing to help the devastated families, or deter the path of the mentally disturbed who are loading their AR15’s, and planning an event.


And yet I've delivered an accurate and fair assessment of the situation as well as in another area a strong base to a solution. You don't like them because they don't agree with your disingenuous hypocritical leftist agenda of disarming honest citizens.

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Jun 3, 2022 08:29:57   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
LDB415 wrote:
And yet I've delivered an accurate and fair assessment of the situation as well as in another area a strong base to a solution. You don't like them because they don't agree with your disingenuous hypocritical leftist agenda of disarming honest citizens.


You play with words. There is no “gun violence”? What does that mean? When one does a violent act using a gun, like slaughtering 19 children, that is violence with a gun, or more succinctly and accurately labeled “ gun violence”. The words don’t really matter in this instant case,
Your “accurate and fair assessment” is deflection and rationalization, devoid of the simple truth—people use guns to kill other people—often their family members, innocent strangers, and young children. Be real, or go to bed.
Take responsibility, when people shoot guns with intent to kill—that is “gun violence”. Your excuses for that are truly sickening.

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Jun 3, 2022 08:35:57   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
Eugene Robinson said it well.

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Jun 3, 2022 08:42:56   #
Haenzel Loc: South Holland, The Netherlands
 
Instead of 'blaming the left' or 'blaming the right' you people should start solving your national issues together. Politicians have put you where it suits them best: a straight left / right divide.
When do you start to realize that you need to work together in order to achieve something that will last longer than a 4 year term?

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Jun 3, 2022 08:50:33   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
"If you think such carnage is acceptable, then come out and say so. If you claim you want to end or even just mitigate this orgy of death, you have to deal with the fact that the one common thread in mass shootings — the common factor in all shootings, by definition — is guns."

Eugene Robinson

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Jun 3, 2022 08:53:18   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
Haenzel wrote:
Instead of 'blaming the left' or 'blaming the right' you people should start solving your national issues together. Politicians have put you where it suits them best: a straight left / right divide.
When do you start to realize that you need to work together in order to achieve something that will last longer than a 4 year term?


No one can disagree, but the hatred, tribal mentality precludes this country from coming together, even when children are being slaughtered. A nice thought though.

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