Which camera has the best kit lens?
May 24, 2022 13:04:11 #
wdross wrote:
4/3rds is the best format for architecture photogr... (show quote)
While 4/3rds is an excellent format, in my opinion describing it as “best format for architecture photography” is a bit much. Either FF or APS-C are both perfectly capable of providing adequate DOF to keep an entire building in focus at an aperture large enough to prevent diffraction and enjoying the advantages of a larger format. Remember that even though the smaller format provides more DOF for a given distance, FOV and aperture, it also has greater diffraction for the same aperture. The advantages of smaller formats include weight and cost, but IQ and DR aren’t necessarily some of them, all else being equal.
May 24, 2022 15:28:34 #
jerryc41 wrote:
I bet there's no correct answer to this question. Kit lenses are great when you are buying a body for which you have no lenses. If I ever buy a Z9, I'll need Z lenses.
You won't be buying a Z9 until the Z15 comes out, but you will continue to remark on all its features!
May 24, 2022 16:13:09 #
Delderby wrote:
Yes - I also - I have also noted that other manufacturers are now leaving out sensor filters to obtain more sharp. 
Yes, just the AA low pass filter. The other layers of the "filter pack" remain. The AA intentionally softens the image slightly, to minimize moire. I prefer no AA filter. The verrry rare spot of moire is easy to select and easily fix in post.
May 24, 2022 16:25:05 #
TriX wrote:
If bought with the X-T4 as a kit, the 18-55 adds $400 over the body only, and the 16-80 adds $500 (B&H prices).
So which kit did you choose ? The $100 difference for the 16-80 seems a bargain. Beats me why they even offer the 18-55 option. I love my 15-85 EF-s, (altho it will depart along with its SLR host body).
May 24, 2022 16:29:13 #
I kinda like the 24-70/4 that came with my Z6. Very good and very light. The only camera I ever purchased in a combo. Best of luck.
May 24, 2022 17:02:27 #
User ID wrote:
So which kit did you choose ? The $100 difference for the 16-80 seems a bargain. Beats me why they even offer the 18-55 option. I love my 15-85 EF-s, (altho it will depart along with its SLR host body).
I didn’t buy the kit, but I did have the 18-55 which I sold and bought the 16-80, which is an excellent versatile lens. Paired with an X-T2,3 or 4, it makes a very versatile high performance 2Lb package. I’ll never get rid of my Canon FF system, but more and more, the Fuji is what I pick up for a trip.
May 24, 2022 20:12:54 #
Delderby wrote:
MFT has been my thing since the Panasonic G1 was launched. However, I feel my photography is in the doldrums, and thought I'd try a larger sensor, but in a small and light MILC. All suggestions gratefully received. Thanks, Del.
Try a Leica 12-60mm f/2.8-4 on your Lumix, first. Or try the Leica 10-25mm f/1.7. Or try the Lumix GX Vario II 12-35mm f/2.8. There are many dozens of Micro 4/3 lenses worth having. They are not cheap, but considerably less costly than their full frame counterparts.
May 24, 2022 22:36:06 #
Canon 80D or 90D with the 18-135mm super zoom make for an excellent general purpose basic camera with kit lens.
May 24, 2022 23:39:40 #
User ID wrote:
I did read your 2nd post just above. br br I boug... (show quote)
You can’t just look at straight millimeters when talking difference in focal length. 4mm at 24mm is almost a 17% difference. 5mm at 50 is only a 10% difference and 3mm at 55 is less than 5.5%. When shooting wide angle 4mm can be the difference in getting the shot or not.
May 25, 2022 00:17:40 #
Delderby wrote:
MFT has been my thing since the Panasonic G1 was launched. However, I feel my photography is in the doldrums, and thought I'd try a larger sensor, but in a small and light MILC. All suggestions gratefully received. Thanks, Del.
I use a Fujifilm X-T4 with the 18-55 mm “kit” lens, and it’s an excellent combination. Plus, the X-T4 has IBIS.
May 25, 2022 00:35:22 #
cwp3420 wrote:
I use a Fujifilm X-T4 with the 18-55 mm “kit” lens, and it’s an excellent combination. Plus, the X-T4 has IBIS.
And the lens has stabilization as well.
May 25, 2022 01:38:11 #
Delderby wrote:
MFT has been my thing since the Panasonic G1 was launched. However, I feel my photography is in the doldrums, and thought I'd try a larger sensor, but in a small and light MILC. All suggestions gratefully received. Thanks, Del.
The term "Kit Lens" is mostly because of how many are sold with camera bodies, and has little to do with quality. True many kit lenses are made with relatively inexpensive materials, but the glass, especially in the case of Olympus and Panasonic can be top notch. So many of these lenses accompany entry level cameras, purchased by beginning photographers that the per unit cost can be kept low. Other, more expensive, models are sold with well regarded lenses as "kit Lenses." So what's the point. A manufacturer of quality cameras cannot afford to sully their product with an inferior lens.., not if they want to inspire those buyers, and others, to continue to purchase their products. My advice is to take with a grain of salt the term "kit" and enjoy your camera.
May 25, 2022 02:05:43 #
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May 25, 2022 12:13:59 #
Delderby wrote:
MFT has been my thing since the Panasonic G1 was launched. However, I feel my photography is in the doldrums, and thought I'd try a larger sensor, but in a small and light MILC. All suggestions gratefully received. Thanks, Del.
The lens on the Sony RX10m4 is AMAZING - as is the sensor .....thinking of selling my full frame Sony ....and crop frame Canon...
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