Cellphone Cameras (Page 7): Important to some.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

BebuLamar wrote:

What these cameras lack are:
1. Shooting in RAW. I think some already can but I am not sure. It should be the easiest thing to implement.
2. Manual focus.
3. Manual exposure control. I don't think any of them has variable aperture.
4. Not so wide angle. The normal lens on these things are like a 28mm on a 35mm.

Important to some.

MrBob Loc: lookout Mtn. NE Alabama

Longshadow wrote:

Important to some.

I think that a lot of negativity comes from folks who FORGET what the original intended market was for these cameras... posting on internet, selfies on vacation, EASY photography for everyone and ALWAYS with you... Everyone should be happy that they have progressed to the point they have... Computational photography is going to put egg on a LOT of faces down the line.

BebuLamar

MrBob wrote:

I think that a lot of negativity comes from folks who FORGET what the original intended market was for these cameras... posting on internet, selfies on vacation, EASY photography for everyone and ALWAYS with you... Everyone should be happy that they have progressed to the point they have... Computational photography is going to put egg on a LOT of faces down the line.

Easy for some. It's difficult for me to use the phone as camera.

Greg from Romeoville illinois Loc: Romeoville illinois

BebuLamar wrote:

What these cameras lack are:
1. Shooting in RAW. I think some already can but I am not sure. It should be the easiest thing to implement.
2. Manual focus.
3. Manual exposure control. I don't think any of them has variable aperture.
4. Not so wide angle. The normal lens on these things are like a 28mm on a 35mm.

My s21 ultra has all but an extreme wide angle.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

BebuLamar wrote:

Easy for some. It's difficult for me to use the phone as camera.

Yea, not the best device ergonomically...

Fstop12 Loc: Kentucky

BebuLamar wrote:

What these cameras lack are:
1. Shooting in RAW. I think some already can but I am not sure. It should be the easiest thing to implement.
2. Manual focus.
3. Manual exposure control. I don't think any of them has variable aperture.
4. Not so wide angle. The normal lens on these things are like a 28mm on a 35mm.

I have an IPhone 13 Pro Max I can:
1. Shoot in RAW
2&3 Manual focus: Tap the screen to show the automatic focus area and exposure setting. Tap where you want to move the focus area. up or down to adjust the exposure.
4. The IPhone has a .5. 1x and 3x lens.

The iPhone 13 Pro features a triple lens set up, with a wide, super-wide and telephoto option on board. The wide angle lens is equivalent to 26mm and has an f/1.5 aperture, while the ultra-wide angle is an improvement from the iPhone 12 Pro model and now features an f/1.8 aperture (it remains at 13mm equivalent). The telephoto lens is also longer than its predecessor, now being a 3x optic (78mm equivalent), with an f/2.8 aperture.

MrBob Loc: lookout Mtn. NE Alabama

BebuLamar wrote:

Easy for some. It's difficult for me to use the phone as camera.

Thats why I have researched and am buying a grip Beb... Will keep you all updated.

mikegreenwald Loc: Illinois

Fstop12 wrote:

I have an IPhone 13 Pro Max I can: br 1. Shoot in ... (show quote)

The nominal features of the Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra are very similar.
The problem persists that I’ve found NO real-time comparison of the image quality of any two or more current model cellphone cameras.

rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania

BebuLamar wrote:

Easy for some. It's difficult for me to use the phone as camera.

Some folks intrinsically have a harder time learning new things. I can understand why it would be difficult for anyone to use a phone as a camera, since a phone is a phone, and a camera is a camera. In the case of smart phones, or even good old fashion simple flip phones, with a built-in camera, you are not using the phone as a camera. You are using the camera that's imbedded in the same physical device as the phone, as a camera. And these smart phone based cameras have a whole lot in common with "mirrorless" cameras, as technically, that's exactly what they are, mirrorless digital cameras.

rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania

Longshadow wrote:

Yea, not the best device ergonomically...

I agree. I usually find using my modern smart phone's camera more difficult and cumbersome than one of my dedicated digital cameras, whether it's a Bridge, DSLR or MILC. Personally, I generally only use the smart phone's camera when I don't have a dedicated camera with me or it's just easier to get the smart phone device in place to take the photo. For example, the other day I needed to photograph the model and serial numbers on my Ryobi 40V lawnmower to send away for a free quick charger. At the time, I had three dedicated cameras in my vehicle with various zoom lenses, a D850 with Nikkor 24-70, a 5D IV with 28-300L and a 90D with Sigma 150-600 and matching Sigma 1.4X teleconverter. For that photo I found it a whole lot easier to simply use the camera in my Google Pixel 6 smart phone.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

rmorrison1116 wrote:

I agree. I usually find using my modern smart phon... (show quote)

SO MUCH easier for me to use my phone for panoramas than taking multiple shots with a <D>SLR/MILC and stitching them.