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Apr 24, 2022 13:35:52   #
Dat Quach Loc: California
 
BobHartung wrote:
You might want to have a look Here. Several possible causes.


Thanks Bob for the leads, will check them out.

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Apr 24, 2022 13:40:46   #
Dat Quach Loc: California
 
AzPicLady wrote:
I had LR do a similar thing to about 5 images out of hundreds imported from a trip. It added a rather large clone section. Nothing I did would get rid of it, although it wasn't there in the original when viewed in explorer. I opened the image in PS, and the cloned section wasn't there. I deleted them from LR and tried again - still there! Never did figure it out.


Hi Kathy, glad I'm not the only one having the problem. Paul and R.G. have solved it, partially.

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Apr 24, 2022 13:47:03   #
Dat Quach Loc: California
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
The most likely cause is the human, not the software doing something under its own control.


I would think so under normal circumstances but in my case, this is the second time it happened right after import and prior to any adjustments initiated by me.

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Apr 24, 2022 13:52:41   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Dat Quach wrote:
I would think so under normal circumstances but in my case, this is the second time it happened right after import and prior to any adjustments initiated by me.


The history says a human made a change ...

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Apr 24, 2022 13:53:47   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
The history says a human made a change ...


I still suspect something sneaking in, hidden inside the DNG files.

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Apr 24, 2022 13:59:26   #
Dat Quach Loc: California
 
Paul and R.G.,

I was exhilarated too soon. The Crop Angle only rotates the image back to 0 but does not restore the original file. The edges are clipped!

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Apr 24, 2022 14:01:22   #
Dat Quach Loc: California
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
The history says a human made a change ...


by overlooking all the possibilities in coding.

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Apr 24, 2022 14:01:28   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Dat Quach wrote:
Paul and R.G.,

I was exhilarated too soon. The Crop Angle only rotates the image back to 0 but does not restore the original file.


Was the RG comment about a DNG accurate? Why not remove the DNG from the catalog and import the image in its native format?

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Apr 24, 2022 14:01:38   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
Dat Quach wrote:
Paul and R.G.,

I was exhilarated too soon. The Crop Angle only rotates the image back to 0 but does not restore the original file.


Try clicking on the bottom-most (the first) step in the History panel. That should take it back to the first adjustment.

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Apr 24, 2022 14:03:20   #
bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA
 
BobHartung wrote:
You might want to have a look Here. Several possible causes.


That link went to another link with a plausible explanation!

".... answer lies in your camera. There is an EXIF setting in the image header that is set by the camera. The TagName is 'Orientation' LR reads and honors the value it finds there. .... in the settings on my camera I have a menu option "Save Rotation Info" Unless this is turned on, the "Orientation" field is set to Normal in all Cases and No auto-rotation occurs.

Check your camera manual and settings to see what you camera is set for. Also check the camera screen in playback. It should (unless you have turned that feature off) also rotate the image during playback. If it doesn't and you settings say it should, the your accelerometer may be malfunctioning."

"there are cameras where you have two settings: One for orientation change on your in-camera display, and another one for writing the orientation into the files. The one that counts for LR is the latter one."

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Apr 24, 2022 14:05:52   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
bsprague wrote:
...The TagName is 'Orientation' LR reads and honors the value it finds there. .......


I suspect that refers to portrait v landscape orientation - in other words horizontal or vertical.

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Apr 24, 2022 14:40:25   #
Dat Quach Loc: California
 
R.G. wrote:
Try clicking on the bottom-most (the first) step in the History panel. That should take it back to the first adjustment.


Done, all it did was rotating the image to zero degree and at the same time, clipping the side edges.

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Apr 24, 2022 14:47:23   #
Dat Quach Loc: California
 
bsprague wrote:
That link went to another link with a plausible explanation!

".... answer lies in your camera. There is an EXIF setting in the image header that is set by the camera. The TagName is 'Orientation' LR reads and honors the value it finds there. .... in the settings on my camera I have a menu option "Save Rotation Info" Unless this is turned on, the "Orientation" field is set to Normal in all Cases and No auto-rotation occurs.

Check your camera manual and settings to see what you camera is set for. Also check the camera screen in playback. It should (unless you have turned that feature off) also rotate the image during playback. If it doesn't and you settings say it should, the your accelerometer may be malfunctioning."

"there are cameras where you have two settings: One for orientation change on your in-camera display, and another one for writing the orientation into the files. The one that counts for LR is the latter one."
That link went to another link with a plausible ex... (show quote)


Leica Q has a very simplistic menu. In DISPLAY SETTING, the Auto Rotate Display is ON, but that is only for viewing. The camera has no setting for writing the orientation into DNG files.

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Apr 24, 2022 14:48:31   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
Dat Quach wrote:
Done, all it did was rotating the image to zero degree and at the same time, clipping the side edges.


If you use the slider on the left hand edge of the History panel to take you to the very bottom of that panel you should see the Import(Date and time) step. Clicking on that should reveal the original image without any adjustments.

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Apr 24, 2022 14:58:20   #
Dat Quach Loc: California
 
R.G. wrote:
If you use the slider on the left hand edge of the History panel to take you to the very bottom of that panel you should see the Import(Date and time) step. Clicking on that should reveal the original image without any adjustments.


V. 6.14 does not have that feature. I click Reset to reset the image (i.e., remove all the adjustments) to no avail, the image is still rotated.

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