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Oct 28, 2012 11:48:29   #
Fran Loc: Northeast, United States
 
Hi all. The images shot in RAW format on my Panasonic FZ200 bridge camera are flat when processed. In camera and when downloaded in the Panasonic software the colors are bright and vibrant. When I bring them over to Picasa for post processing they appear dull and flat.

JPEG images taken by the camera are bright and vibrant when put through post processing.

I've attached an example of a RAW and JPEG.

Does anyone know why this is happening?

RAW
RAW...

JPEG
JPEG...

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Oct 28, 2012 12:10:26   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
Hardly a real comparison as they are different shots taken under very different lighting conditions. If you want to do a REAL comparison, then take 2 images of the same scene at the same time under the same conditions. One in each format.

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Oct 28, 2012 12:23:08   #
JR1 Loc: Tavistock, Devon, UK
 
Not when edited surely



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Oct 28, 2012 13:49:01   #
Fran Loc: Northeast, United States
 
MT Shooter wrote:
Hardly a real comparison as they are different shots taken under very different lighting conditions. If you want to do a REAL comparison, then take 2 images of the same scene at the same time under the same conditions. One in each format.


I;ll post a comparison as you suggested. Below is a picture taken in RAW a few minutes after the JPEG photo. I took several in RAW that day and they all appear dull. However, the JPEG are more vivid.



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Oct 28, 2012 13:51:33   #
Fran Loc: Northeast, United States
 
JR1 wrote:
Not when edited surely


Much better thanks. The colors in person and in camera are much brighter. I'll try processing in Elements 10 and see what happens. This is a new model camera so I'm wondering if perhaps Picasa needs to account for that.

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Oct 28, 2012 13:55:14   #
JR1 Loc: Tavistock, Devon, UK
 
Come on your'e not trying, less than one minute



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Oct 28, 2012 13:56:00   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
Fran wrote:
MT Shooter wrote:
Hardly a real comparison as they are different shots taken under very different lighting conditions. If you want to do a REAL comparison, then take 2 images of the same scene at the same time under the same conditions. One in each format.


I;ll post a comparison as you suggested. Below is a picture taken in RAW a few minutes after the JPEG photo. I took several in RAW that day and they all appear dull. However, the JPEG are more vivid.


I really don't think you understand. There is no way to compare image quality between two different formats when they are taken in totally different lighting situations. Photography is LITERALLY the capturing of light. If you want an honest comparison and an intelligent response you need to post shots taken together in the SAME light, otherwise advise given here by anyone is pointless and of absolutely no significant purpose.

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Oct 28, 2012 13:56:10   #
JR1 Loc: Tavistock, Devon, UK
 
You do have to PROCESS the RAW images you can't use them straight from the camera

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Oct 28, 2012 13:59:22   #
Fran Loc: Northeast, United States
 
JR1 wrote:
You do have to PROCESS the RAW images you can't use them straight from the camera


Yes. I'm well aware of that. Thanks for your input. I'll post a true comparison and you will see.

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Oct 28, 2012 14:03:28   #
JR1 Loc: Tavistock, Devon, UK
 
Then why are yours dull, they take me seconds

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Oct 28, 2012 14:09:39   #
Fran Loc: Northeast, United States
 
JR1 wrote:
Then why are yours dull, they take me seconds


Although the image is brighter, it is still not as bright as I am seeing in camera or In the Panasonic software. I do not have this problem with my dslr when shooting RAW.

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Oct 28, 2012 14:12:09   #
JR1 Loc: Tavistock, Devon, UK
 
Yes but I only have a copy to work from !

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Oct 28, 2012 14:12:51   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
You need to remember that you are comparing 2 vastly different sensors there, as well as two totally different software preset parameters. ALL JPG images are transformed from RAW, whether it is done automatically in camera with that group of presets, or in PP with either a set group of presets or manually based on your eyes judgement.

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Oct 28, 2012 14:15:37   #
JR1 Loc: Tavistock, Devon, UK
 
must agree with all mtshooter has said

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Oct 28, 2012 14:20:41   #
Fran Loc: Northeast, United States
 
MT Shooter wrote:
Hardly a real comparison as they are different shots taken under very different lighting conditions. If you want to do a REAL comparison, then take 2 images of the same scene at the same time under the same conditions. One in each format.


These were both taken at 2.8. 1/200. ISO 200. I loaded them in the software and then opened Picasa.

RAW converted to JPEG
RAW converted to JPEG...

JPEG
JPEG...

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