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Mar 31, 2022 21:23:55   #
Bridges Loc: Memphis, Charleston SC, now Nazareth PA
 
The last time I looked at a chart of the elements I did not see gas as an element. I'm sure there have been a couple of very rare elements added since I last looked but feel sure gas is not one of them. Having said that, gas must be made up of several elements the two main ones which are hydrogen and carbon. So why can't we just make petroleum by combining elements? We do make synthetic motor oil after all. I'm sure someone will explain why this can't be done, but why can't we figure out some manufactured fuel that will take the place of gas, after all we have over a hundred base elements to work with.

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Mar 31, 2022 21:31:24   #
JamesCurran Loc: Trenton ,NJ
 
"synthetic motor oil " isn't created from scratch. It's just oil with some added chemicals.

As for making gasoline in the lab:
What Is the Chemical Formula for Gasoline?
Gasoline, a refined product of crude oil, does not have a single chemical formula as it is a mixture of over 500 hydrocarbons and other compounds.
https://www.reference.com/science/chemical-formula-gasoline-39e597f274a4dd5d

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Mar 31, 2022 21:42:00   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
GASoline is a compound, not an element.
Compounds are made up of various elements in varying amounts.
Only elements are in the Periodic Table.

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Mar 31, 2022 22:02:40   #
BassmanBruce Loc: Middle of the Mitten
 
Longshadow wrote:
GASoline is a compound, not an element


This is true but GAS Is an element. Often it is the element of surprise.
It is on the periodic table for obvious reasons, largely related to it’s low spouse acceptability factor
Atomic weight similar to gold. (Not to surprising)
The only known site for it’s extraction is the island nation of Costa Arma Leggo.
Hope this helps!!!

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Mar 31, 2022 22:12:25   #
walkurie Loc: East Stroudsburg, PA
 
The Germans produced gasoline from coal during WWII.

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Mar 31, 2022 22:18:34   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
BassmanBruce wrote:
This is true but GAS Is an element. Often it is the element of surprise.
It is on the periodic table for obvious reasons, Largely related to it’s low spouse acceptability factor
Atomic weight similar to gold. (Not to surprising)
The only known site for it’s extraction is the island nation of Costa Arma Leggo.
Hope this helps!!!
This is true but GAS Is an element. Often it is th... (show quote)

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Hydrogen and sulfur are elements, but hydrogen sulfide is a <smelly> compound.

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Mar 31, 2022 22:19:07   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
walkurie wrote:
The Germans produced gasoline from coal during WWII.


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Mar 31, 2022 22:35:24   #
ken_stern Loc: Yorba Linda, Ca
 
If you ignite hydrogen, you can use the exhaust as a mixer

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Mar 31, 2022 22:38:05   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
ken_stern wrote:
If you ignite hydrogen, you can use the exhaust as a mixer


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Mar 31, 2022 22:43:34   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Bridges wrote:
.... So why can't we just make petroleum by combining elements? ...

Quite possibly it may require more energy to combine the atoms making it not so cost effective.

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Mar 31, 2022 22:53:35   #
JamesCurran Loc: Trenton ,NJ
 
Longshadow wrote:
Quite possibly it may require more energy to combine the atoms making it not so cost effective.


I believe vastly more. If it were that easy, you could pluck s few protons off of Lead to make Gold.

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Mar 31, 2022 22:54:22   #
ken_stern Loc: Yorba Linda, Ca
 
Longshadow wrote:
Quite possibly it may require more energy to combine the atoms making it not so cost effective.


OR: "just" A million+ years of pressure

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Mar 31, 2022 23:00:08   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
JamesCurran wrote:
I believe vastly more. If it were that easy, you could pluck s few protons off of Lead to make Gold.

Well, you'd have to take the same amount of electrons away also.

Isn't removing protons called splitting the atom?

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Mar 31, 2022 23:01:18   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
ken_stern wrote:
OR: "just" A million+ years of pressure

Like diamonds.
Just squish it really, really, really hard.

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Mar 31, 2022 23:08:58   #
Bridges Loc: Memphis, Charleston SC, now Nazareth PA
 
JamesCurran wrote:
"synthetic motor oil " isn't created from scratch. It's just oil with some added chemicals.

As for making gasoline in the lab:
What Is the Chemical Formula for Gasoline?
Gasoline, a refined product of crude oil, does not have a single chemical formula as it is a mixture of over 500 hydrocarbons and other compounds.
https://www.reference.com/science/chemical-formula-gasoline-39e597f274a4dd5d


Thanks for the answer, but why can't we deduce the amount of each hydrocarbon and put it together ourselves? They have been able to dissect the human genome with over a million parts, why can't we do this with gas? I'm just trying to understand why we can't manufacture something even if it is not petroleum as we get it from the ground. It seems we can do so much but why are we unable to do this?

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