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Now theres a user who actually understands his device.

mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey

Actually, on current Canon and Nikon cameras when you use Auto ISO in Manual mode the EC control just modifies ISO, and as a result you can set ISO to whatever value you wish. So you are not really relinquishing control at all. Since Auto ISO is still set, if you point the camera somewhere else is or the lighting changes abruptly, even though the EC adjustment remains applied an additional EC adjustment may be needed to compensate for the change in lighting. But, in any case I often set the ISO manually.

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Another expert in his own mind, oblivious to how stuff really works.

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Amusing strategy of chasing ones own tail. First, sneak up on it, then pounce, then run in circles.

mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey

If you are going to criticize you might provide an explicit reason for your comment and indicate an error I have made, otherwise its just wind.

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You have terribly simplistic view of auto exposure modes.

srt101fan

Meanwhile, back on the lower rungs of the photographic skill ladder, and making due with my lowly entry level Nikon D5300, I happily set my camera to M plus Auto ISO and merrily click away. Oh, throw in a little EC every once in a while...😁

mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey

Once again, all air but no substance. If I have erred I would be happy to admit it but blind criticism with no context is a useless exercise. The devil is in the details, and you are providing none.

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Whistle while you work ...

Ysarex Loc: St. Louis

That's a case where I have a problem with auto-ISO. When I'm making a camera exposure I want my only concern to be exposure. If the lighting changes I want to compensate exposure and not the lightness of the camera JPEG. ISO is not an exposure determinant variable and I don't want the camera changing it as if it were.

I really am a control freak when it comes to exposure and I and only I determine exposure. I want my camera meter to be telling me about what I'm capturing in the raw file and only that. I can get what I need then from Program mode.

mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey

As I said from the start, you should use whatever works for you.

Ysarex Loc: St. Louis

That's great but you've been making some assertions that are not entirely accurate.

For example; "Are you saying you can select a specific aperture and at the same time a specific shutter speed as easily in P mode as you can in manual mode? In manual mode I can do both in around 4-5 seconds. None of the semi-auto modes are designed to allow you to have fast and full control over selecting a specific aperture and shutter speed at the same time." [my bold]
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-733662-11.html#13038021
P mode gives you fast and full control over selecting a specific f/stop and shutter speed at the same time (really at the same time).

And: "When using auto ISO, EC allows me to tailor the ISO to give me the exposure I want based on the aperture and shutter speed I've selected." https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-733662-11.html#13038075 Using the camera in manual with auto ISO the EC control allows you to alter the ISO but does not effect exposure.

And: "If you cannot select the both a specific aperture and a specific shutter speed for an image in P mode, that is a significant limitation that does not exist in manual mode." https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-733662-12.html#13038565 It doesn't exist in P mode either.

And: "I know how P mode works and I also know its limitations. After setting the shutter speed, I would want it to select the SPECIFIC aperture that I want, not a "proper" aperture the camera selects for me." https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-733662-12.html#13038866
P mode's shift function in conjunction with the EC control can be used to set the SPECIFIC aperture that you want.

And:"If I set Auto ISO on, when I'm in Manual mode I can set the the shutter speed of a stabilized lens like my Canon 35mm f/2 IS to 1/15/sec, set the aperture to f/2 and then use EC to modify the Auto ISO to give me my preferred exposure." https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-733662-12.html#13038866 If the camera is in Manual mode with auto ISO on and you've set the shutter speed and f/stop then EC will alter the ISO value but can't alter the exposure.

You noted earlier https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-733662-11.html#13038122 that some were suggesting that P mode was superior to manual or easier to use in every situation. That's nonsense. Just like saying P mode won't allow you to have fast and full control over selecting a specific aperture and shutter speed at the same time. It's all much ado about nothing.