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Mar 24, 2022 19:39:20   #
SX2002 Loc: Adelaide, South Australia
 
I watched a video recently, done by an "expert" photographer, on Youtube.
In this particular instance, he set the lens to 1:1 and then proceeded to use auto focus. How did he do this...?
Is there a particular type of macro lens that separates the ratio settings from the auto focus..?
I use a Sigma 150mm macro and the only way I can shoot 1:1 is by turning auto focus off and moving the lens/camera back and forth to focus.
If I use auto focus, the ratio is reset when it focuses..?
Any ideas...?

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Mar 24, 2022 19:47:30   #
Orphoto Loc: Oregon
 
most serious macro enthusiasts rely on manual focusing when in really tight.

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Mar 24, 2022 19:54:53   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Depends on the camera/lens???

I have a bridge camera the auto-focuses down to 2cm from the subject.
(I have no idea what the x:y ratio is for the camera (and I don't care), I just get closer until I get the composition I want.)

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Mar 24, 2022 20:03:49   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Are you asking how to use the LiveView Zoom feature for a DSLR?

Are you asking how to zoom to the 1:1 details of a mirrorless EVF?

Are you asking if you should just post your question as a comment to the utube video rather than asking the UHH community to make their typically wild guesses?

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Mar 24, 2022 20:12:39   #
SX2002 Loc: Adelaide, South Australia
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Are you asking how to use the LiveView Zoom feature?


NO, it's about how this guy used auto focus after setting 1:1 on his macro lens...as I said, if I set 1:1 on my lens and then press the shutter button to auto focus the 1:1 setting is lost and the lens focuses to the ratio required.
If you have a macro lens, try it and you will see what I mean...the only way I know of maintaining the ratio set is to turn off auto focus and move back and forward to focus...I know how to do it but I cannot understand how he did what he did...

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Mar 24, 2022 20:15:04   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
SX2002 wrote:
NO, it's about how this guy used auto focus after setting 1:1 on his macro lens...as I said, if I set 1:1 on my lens and then press the shutter button to auto focus the 1:1 setting is lost and the lens focuses to the ratio required.
If you have a macro lens, try it and you will see what I mean...the only way I know of maintaining the ratio set is to turn off auto focus and move back and forward to focus...I know how to do it but I cannot understand how he did what he did...


see my other questions added to the reply ...

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Mar 24, 2022 20:17:02   #
tcthome Loc: NJ
 
Orphoto wrote:
most serious macro enthusiasts rely on manual focusing when in really tight.



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Mar 24, 2022 20:18:28   #
tcthome Loc: NJ
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Are you asking how to use the LiveView Zoom feature for a DSLR?

Are you asking how to zoom to the 1:1 details of a mirrorless EVF?

Are you asking if you should just post your question as a comment to the utube video rather than asking the UHH community to make their typically wild guesses?


I agree or, provide a link to the vid.

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Mar 24, 2022 20:34:05   #
JimH123 Loc: Morgan Hill, CA
 
SX2002 wrote:
I watched a video recently, done by an "expert" photographer, on Youtube.
In this particular instance, he set the lens to 1:1 and then proceeded to use auto focus. How did he do this...?
Is there a particular type of macro lens that separates the ratio settings from the auto focus..?
I use a Sigma 150mm macro and the only way I can shoot 1:1 is by turning auto focus off and moving the lens/camera back and forth to focus.
If I use auto focus, the ratio is reset when it focuses..?
Any ideas...?
I watched a video recently, done by an "exper... (show quote)


Can you find that Youtube video again? And then share the link?

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Mar 25, 2022 07:00:31   #
uhaas2009
 
Sometimes it belongs to certain camera body and lens combination. My d7000 couldn’t focus probably the Tokina 100 mm but my 810 isn’t a problem at all.

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Mar 25, 2022 08:03:26   #
marciamyers Loc: Georgetown, In.
 
Which bridge camera do you have? I’m considering one for everyday travels as I usually have three dogs with me. Add a DSLR and a lens or two…not great results.

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Mar 25, 2022 08:33:22   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
marciamyers wrote:
Which bridge camera do you have? I’m considering one for everyday travels as I usually have three dogs with me. Add a DSLR and a lens or two…not great results.

IF you are asking me, a Sony H1.

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Mar 25, 2022 08:34:16   #
BebuLamar
 
SX2002 wrote:
NO, it's about how this guy used auto focus after setting 1:1 on his macro lens...as I said, if I set 1:1 on my lens and then press the shutter button to auto focus the 1:1 setting is lost and the lens focuses to the ratio required.
If you have a macro lens, try it and you will see what I mean...the only way I know of maintaining the ratio set is to turn off auto focus and move back and forward to focus...I know how to do it but I cannot understand how he did what he did...


I think we need to see that video. I understand what you meant. Perhaps he used the AF sensor but not AF. That is he set the lens to 1:1 then moved the camera closer or farther from the subject until the AF sensor said it's in focus. That way he got 1:1.

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Mar 25, 2022 10:15:42   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
SX2002 wrote:
NO, it's about how this guy used auto focus after setting 1:1 on his macro lens...as I said, if I set 1:1 on my lens and then press the shutter button to auto focus the 1:1 setting is lost and the lens focuses to the ratio required.
If you have a macro lens, try it and you will see what I mean...the only way I know of maintaining the ratio set is to turn off auto focus and move back and forward to focus...I know how to do it but I cannot understand how he did what he did...


OF COURSE — If you are not at the exact DISTANCE required to achieve 1:1 magnification (meaning the subject appears the exact same size ON THE SENSOR as it does in real life), then the AF will adjust the lens to focus on the subject! You would do the same, manually.

If you want 1:1 AND your lens' close focusing limit is 1:1, then set the minimum focus distance and move the camera back and forth until the subject is in focus. HINT: it may be best to mount your camera on a rail system or tripod, or move THE SUBJECT closer or farther away to achieve focus.

Lots of folks put a flat-field enlarging lens on a bellows and use that as a macro setup. It can get past the 1:1 barrier, to get even closer (typically 6:1 or 8:1).

1:1 is merely a way of saying, "This lens focuses close enough to make the subject the same size on film or sensor as it is in real life." Only at ONE specific focus distance will you achieve exactly 1:1 reproduction ratio.

1:1 is relative to the sensor format! It is an area of coverage about 36mm by 24mm on full frame. It is an area of coverage about 17.3mm by 13mm on Micro 4/3. It is an area of coverage about 10" by 8" on an 8x10 view camera.

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Mar 25, 2022 10:42:06   #
jackm1943 Loc: Omaha, Nebraska
 
SX2002 wrote:
I watched a video recently, done by an "expert" photographer, on Youtube.
In this particular instance, he set the lens to 1:1 and then proceeded to use auto focus. How did he do this...?
Is there a particular type of macro lens that separates the ratio settings from the auto focus..?
I use a Sigma 150mm macro and the only way I can shoot 1:1 is by turning auto focus off and moving the lens/camera back and forth to focus.
If I use auto focus, the ratio is reset when it focuses..?
Any ideas...?
I watched a video recently, done by an "exper... (show quote)


I recently purchased a mirrorless just to use it's focus bracketing feature which, like all focus bracketing cameras I think, requires autofocus lenses. My macro lens does not do well when at maximum close focus. It starts hunting focus. I found that if I back off just a millimeter or two it works fine.

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