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Mar 18, 2022 17:51:41   #
mwalsh Loc: Houston
 
At least the girls know whats up. 2nd, 3rd, and 4th celebrate their victory.

Whilst Lia celebrates the advantage of male genes in the girl's pool...



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Mar 18, 2022 18:04:38   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
mwalsh wrote:
At least the girls know whats up. 2nd, 3rd, and 4th celebrate their victory.

Whilst Lia celebrates the advantage of male genes in the girl's pool...


Interesting.
I saw the observers all cheered loudly when the 2nd place (a real female) finished.

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Mar 19, 2022 07:26:40   #
davidrb Loc: Half way there on the 45th Parallel
 
mwalsh wrote:
At least the girls know whats up. 2nd, 3rd, and 4th celebrate their victory.

Whilst Lia celebrates the advantage of male genes in the girl's pool...


The loneliest man in women's sports. An asterisk in trivial history. Biden wants to date her. Sleeze personified, someone for Hilary to emulate, if she has the balls to try. The son o'bummer always wanted. Keynote speaker at Biden's renewal convention. Poster girl for the Democratic purty, their usual bullshit. Celebrating the year of the freak!

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Mar 19, 2022 08:40:10   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
davidrb wrote:
The loneliest man in women's sports. An asterisk in trivial history. Biden wants to date her. Sleeze personified, someone for Hilary to emulate, if she has the balls to try. The son o'bummer always wanted. Keynote speaker at Biden's renewal convention. Poster girl for the Democratic purty, their usual bullshit. Celebrating the year of the freak!


There must be treatment available for your condition.

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Mar 19, 2022 11:02:11   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
davidrb wrote:
The loneliest man in women's sports. An asterisk in trivial history. Biden wants to date her. Sleeze personified, someone for Hilary to emulate, if she has the balls to try. The son o'bummer always wanted. Keynote speaker at Biden's renewal convention. Poster girl for the Democratic purty, their usual bullshit. Celebrating the year of the freak!


Wow, well written.
Will have to keep these points in mind for future discussions as they are excellent.
Thank you.

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Mar 19, 2022 12:07:50   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
What kind of human being, I started to say what kind of guy but this applies to both sexes, would exploit an obvious unfair advantage of an unlevel playing field to deprive others who are doing their best at playing it straight for his own ego aggrandizement? What kind of a human being could live with himself with this despicableness?

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Mar 19, 2022 13:16:24   #
skylane5sp Loc: Puyallup, WA
 
thom w wrote:
There must be treatment available for your condition.

So you support the destruction of women's sports? Good on ya, Princess.

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Mar 19, 2022 13:17:23   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
skylane5sp wrote:
So you support the destruction of women's sports? Good on ya, Princess.


That has been the goal of all democrats and libs.

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Mar 19, 2022 13:26:31   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
skylane5sp wrote:
So you support the destruction of women's sports? Good on ya, Princess.


I don't have a position on this. Discuss it all you wish. Even show your contempt for decisions you feel are contemptible. Don't take a disagreement you have with a sports governing body and make it political. Do you even know the political affiliation of persons who have voted on this? I'm assuming this wasn't a one person decision. This doesn't seem like a Democrat vs Republican sort of thing.

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Mar 19, 2022 14:14:33   #
srg
 
skylane5sp wrote:
So you support the destruction of women's sports? Good on ya, Princess.


insulate that closet door against sound, then close, it padlock it, throw the key away. Also some weatherstrip for the smell.

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Mar 19, 2022 14:44:54   #
mwalsh Loc: Houston
 
srg wrote:
insulate that closet door against sound, then close, it padlock it, throw the key away. Also some weatherstrip for the smell.


Not real helpful.

Do you have a view on this issue? In the most basic of terms, there are two sides.

One is that allowing trans women, who were born male and went through puberty and therefore have a distinct physical advantage over women who were born women is not fair to the women. Allowing the trans women to compete in women's sports will result in the records and championships being owned by trans women due to their physical advantages.

One is that we must respect these men's choice to be women and must afford them equal rights with the naturally born women and must allow them to compete as the gender they identify with. They have equal rights.



How often do you hear of a trans man (born female) dominating competitions in men's sports? You don't. The athlete born as a female but competes as a male has distinct physical disadvantages compared to athletes who were born male.

Not much risk of them dominating men's sports. Athletes born male competing in womens' sports are dominating the competition. Lia is just the poster child. There are many other stories.

Is this advantage fair to natural born women?

I can respect Lia's desire to be a female and I can call her a woman. I don't think she should be competing against women in sports that drive scholarships and national records. She has the advantage of male genes, male muscle mass, male bone structure, etc.

Disallowing her to compete in womens' sports may not be fair to her...but life is not always fair. Allowing her to compete with women is grossly unfair to all the other women.

Who's rights should prevail here?

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Mar 19, 2022 14:51:21   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
mwalsh wrote:
Not real helpful.

Do you have a view on this issue? In the most basic of terms, there are two sides.

One is that allowing trans women, who were born male and went through puberty and therefore have a distinct physical advantage over women who were born women is not fair to the women. Allowing the trans women to compete in women's sports will result in the records and championships being owned by trans women due to their physical advantages.

One is that we must respect these men's choice to be women and must afford them equal rights with the naturally born women and must allow them to compete as the gender they identify with. They have equal rights.



How often do you hear of a trans man (born female) dominating competitions in men's sports? You don't. The athlete born as a female but competes as a male has distinct physical disadvantages compared to athletes who were born male.

Not much risk of them dominating men's sports. Athletes born male competing in womens' sports are dominating the competition. Lia is just the poster child. There are many other stories.

Is this advantage fair to natural born women?

I can respect Lia's desire to be a female and I can call her a woman. I don't think she should be competing against women in sports that drive scholarships and national records. She has the advantage of male genes, male muscle mass, male bone structure, etc.

Disallowing her to compete in womens' sports may not be fair to her...but life is not always fair. Allowing her to compete with women is grossly unfair to all the other women.

Who's rights should prevail here?
Not real helpful. br br Do you have a view on thi... (show quote)


You are probably correct, but if I were in a position to change either the rules, or the way they are interpreted, I would do some homework before making a decision. That they are allowed to compete surprises me, so I'd be interested in the rational.

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Mar 19, 2022 14:58:41   #
JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.
 
mwalsh wrote:
Not real helpful.

Do you have a view on this issue? In the most basic of terms, there are two sides.

One is that allowing trans women, who were born male and went through puberty and therefore have a distinct physical advantage over women who were born women is not fair to the women. Allowing the trans women to compete in women's sports will result in the records and championships being owned by trans women due to their physical advantages.

One is that we must respect these men's choice to be women and must afford them equal rights with the naturally born women and must allow them to compete as the gender they identify with. They have equal rights.



How often do you hear of a trans man (born female) dominating competitions in men's sports? You don't. The athlete born as a female but competes as a male has distinct physical disadvantages compared to athletes who were born male.

Not much risk of them dominating men's sports. Athletes born male competing in womens' sports are dominating the competition. Lia is just the poster child. There are many other stories.

Is this advantage fair to natural born women?

I can respect Lia's desire to be a female and I can call her a woman. I don't think she should be competing against women in sports that drive scholarships and national records. She has the advantage of male genes, male muscle mass, male bone structure, etc.

Disallowing her to compete in womens' sports may not be fair to her...but life is not always fair. Allowing her to compete with women is grossly unfair to all the other women.

Who's rights should prevail here?
Not real helpful. br br Do you have a view on thi... (show quote)


There are plenty of "categories" in sports. There is no reason to not add yet one more.

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Mar 19, 2022 15:02:17   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
thom w wrote:
You are probably correct, but if I were in a position to change either the rules, or the way they are interpreted, I would do some homework before making a decision. That they are allowed to compete surprises me, so I'd be interested in the rational.


The rational is called Woke Progressivism. Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion: three things that aren't virtues in themselves but are the sacrements of the Left. Get to know and understand your own philosophy. Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion have replaced Merit, Individualism, and Equality.

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Mar 19, 2022 15:49:49   #
srg
 
mwalsh wrote:
Not real helpful.

Do you have a view on this issue? In the most basic of terms, there are two sides.

One is that allowing trans women, who were born male and went through puberty and therefore have a distinct physical advantage over women who were born women is not fair to the women. Allowing the trans women to compete in women's sports will result in the records and championships being owned by trans women due to their physical advantages.

One is that we must respect these men's choice to be women and must afford them equal rights with the naturally born women and must allow them to compete as the gender they identify with. They have equal rights.

Call me Neanderthal if you like. There are enough issues to be concerned about as is.



How often do you hear of a trans man (born female) dominating competitions in men's sports? You don't. The athlete born as a female but competes as a male has distinct physical disadvantages compared to athletes who were born male.

Not much risk of them dominating men's sports. Athletes born male competing in womens' sports are dominating the competition. Lia is just the poster child. There are many other stories.

Is this advantage fair to natural born women?

I can respect Lia's desire to be a female and I can call her a woman. I don't think she should be competing against women in sports that drive scholarships and national records. She has the advantage of male genes, male muscle mass, male bone structure, etc.

Disallowing her to compete in womens' sports may not be fair to her...but life is not always fair. Allowing her to compete with women is grossly unfair to all the other women.

Who's rights should prevail here?
Not real helpful. br br Do you have a view on thi... (show quote)


By all means, we have a free country and each of us is enabled to choose how they want to live and with whom they want to interact as long as it is voluntary. But on a personal note, I simply wish that when it comes to such a gut feeling thing, I wish they would keep to themselves about it. I don't like hearing things that make me feel repulsed. If you follow the news, one would think that the majority has become trans. Ewwww. I accept that they exist. Just get out of my face about it. Enough already.

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