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Mar 9, 2022 19:13:51   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
frankraney wrote:
Not to be confused with? contrails are condensation/vapor, are they not. But the so are chemtrails. Thus the confusion. Isn't the exhaust the exhaust from the planes made by a chemical (jet fuel)? Why don't we just call the vapor trails? No more confusion (there is that con again)

He meant con as in pull the wool over the eyes.

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Mar 9, 2022 19:20:23   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
Longshadow wrote:
He meant con as in pull the wool over the eyes.


Yeah, thats why I said (there is the con again)

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Mar 9, 2022 19:23:49   #
therwol Loc: USA
 
frankraney wrote:
Not to be confused with? contrails are condensation/vapor, are they not. But the so are chemtrails. Thus the confusion. Isn't the exhaust the exhaust from the planes made by a chemical (jet fuel)? Why don't we just call the vapor trails? No more confusion (there is that con again)


From memory, the combustion of hydrocarbons produces carbon dioxide and water. Okay, some carbon monoxide and contaminant by products, but what you see in contrails is the water vapor. It may not be pure water, but it's the water condensing in the cold of high altitude that you see. Nothing has changed about this since planes have been able to fly high enough to cause the phenomenon. They don't have to be jets.

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Mar 9, 2022 19:55:18   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
frankraney wrote:
Yeah, thats why I said (there is the con again)


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Mar 9, 2022 20:19:21   #
alberio Loc: Casa Grande AZ
 
frankraney wrote:
Not to be confused with? contrails are condensation/vapor, are they not. But the so are chemtrails. Thus the confusion. Isn't the exhaust the exhaust from the planes made by a chemical (jet fuel)? Why don't we just call the vapor trails? No more confusion (there is that con again)


I'm not confused, I was using a play on words. Con=conned vs. Con=condensation. Maybe I should have used the term conned-trails.

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Mar 9, 2022 20:21:09   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
alberio wrote:
I'm not confused, I was using a play on words. Con=conned vs. Con=condensation. Maybe I should have used the term conned-trails.

Haha - immediate understanding with that one...

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Mar 9, 2022 20:22:32   #
alberio Loc: Casa Grande AZ
 
therwol wrote:
From memory, the combustion of hydrocarbons produces carbon dioxide and water. Okay, some carbon monoxide and contaminant by products, but what you see in contrails is the water vapor. It may not be pure water, but it's the water condensing in the cold of high altitude that you see. Nothing has changed about this since planes have been able to fly high enough to cause the phenomenon. They don't have to be jets.


Bingo

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Mar 9, 2022 20:53:11   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
therwol wrote:
From memory, the combustion of hydrocarbons produces carbon dioxide and water. Okay, some carbon monoxide and contaminant by products, but what you see in contrails is the water vapor. It may not be pure water, but it's the water condensing in the cold of high altitude that you see. Nothing has changed about this since planes have been able to fly high enough to cause the phenomenon. They don't have to be jets.


Yup..... All trails are water vapor I think. That's what I was saying, why don't we just say ballot trails.

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Mar 9, 2022 22:36:00   #
alberio Loc: Casa Grande AZ
 
frankraney wrote:
Yup..... All trails are water vapor I think. That's what I was saying, why don't we just say ballot trails.


That's probably where they went missing...in The Friendly Skies.

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Mar 10, 2022 00:58:58   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
alberio wrote:
That's probably where they went missing...in The Friendly Skies.


lol...how did vapor get changed to ballot?

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Mar 10, 2022 01:07:57   #
alberio Loc: Casa Grande AZ
 
frankraney wrote:
lol...how did vapor get changed to ballot?


Kinda wondering the same thing.

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Mar 10, 2022 02:27:42   #
Laramie Loc: Tempe
 
Ugly Hedge Hog, like every forum I frequent, is not a democracy. It is privately owned. If the owner doesn't like a post he could move it, or delete it, or whatever. There are plenty of other places you could use to write about your ideas.

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Mar 10, 2022 10:40:53   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Laramie wrote:
Ugly Hedge Hog, like every forum I frequent, is not a democracy. It is privately owned. If the owner doesn't like a post he could move it, or delete it, or whatever. There are plenty of other places you could use to write about your ideas.


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