autofocus Loc: North Central Connecticut

By creating a mat like border around it that's now sized at 11x14

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

Depending on the scene, one can expand/compress the image also.
(Which usually works best for landscapes, not so much for people that are close to the camera.)

frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.

autofocus Loc: North Central Connecticut

Well, as they say, "there are many ways to skin a cat," and anyone versed in the use of Photoshop knows that to be true. The bottom line is always what works best for a particular issue, and what the user is most comfortable with in doing. There was a secondary advantage in doing it this way for me, and that of not requiring the added cost of a mat when framing. The images were printed on hard stock/matboard, and no mat needed when framing.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

Yup, whatever floats your boat.

robertjerl Loc: Corona, California

Then it really isn't, is it? It is just printed on an 11x14 with a lot of white space. We have these kinds of problems because most of the photo paper sizes are left overs from plate camera days. They are the size of a contact print from one of those big glass plates and have been around for so long that people think of those as the "right" sizes for photographs. You could use a printer that does 13x19 and print your 2x3 aspect ratio shots as 12x16 with a 1/2" border all around after you trim off 2" from the long side. Of course then mat boards and frames will be hard to find. The solution would be mount them in 13x19 mat boards and frames with 1/2' border on the long sides and 1.5" borders on the short sides.

If you really like the 11x14 size prints and want that size only may I suggest you frame your shots to have room to crop to 11x14 aspect ratio. Just leave some space on one or both sides when in landscape mode and at top or bottom in portrait mode.
Like this:
1. OOC
2. 11x14
And no, this isn't the final version, in fact it is one of my rejected "almost" shots, too much contrast with blown highlights.

People have been struggling with the problem of sensor ratio and print paper not matching since 35mm and other modern film sizes came along.

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robertjerl Loc: Corona, California

Oh, I forgot, a guy I used to know worked at a small museum part time mounting photos and paintings for display.
He said their solution was what you did, center the photo and use the blank space for titles etc. and they called it "Museum Mount".
So just tell everyone, including "know it all" old retired teachers on UHH that you are using "Museum Mount" for hanging your pictures.

I am 2/3 through my first cup of coffee and my inner "nice guy" is waking up. I read and watched Deep Space 9 until after 2 AM and just got up a bit before 10 AM.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

Maybe he is working with the image at hand and does not want to crop.
Or suggesting for an already captured image that one might not want to crop.

"Next time do this" really doesn't help with the problem at hand.

autofocus Loc: North Central Connecticut

well it fits into an 11x14 frame and that fits the wall I was mounting it on. And yes, if you want to get technical the photo itself is not an 11x14, and I never said it was. I'm not asking for suggestions of what I should have done, if that was the case I would have asked for it. And I suspect I'm no exception when it comes to shooting and not leaving breathing room in the image for enlargement purposes. When I frame a shot, I frame it with consideration to composition in mind, and not whether I'm going to print an "odd size" of it. If I wanted to print it full size without cropping issues I could have done it as an 8x12, or a 16x20, but neither of those sizes fit my needs as far as the mounting location. And a crop on either of the images to an 11x14 would have destroyed the composition, and that's what's important to me.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

robertjerl Loc: Corona, California

OK
My coffee is kicking in and now I am not so grumpy - I even gave the dogs a few treats and head scratches.

Have a nice day and ignore old grumps who haven't had their coffee yet.

autofocus Loc: North Central Connecticut

thanks Long Shadow, appreciated, and a retired teacher of all things! Maybe the retired teacher could learn a few things from me! I've been shooting for over 50 years, have shot professionally and commercially, and still do on occasion. I've probably edited damn near 100k images since going digital in 2004, and before that I printed and processed my own film in my darkroom. And I've probably sold thousands of images over that time, and a history teacher is going to tell me what I should have done! Well, you know what they say about teachers, "there are those that can and do, and those that can't and teach!" Surely, I could consider his suggestions openly if I had asked for help, or placed the photos in the critique section.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

I do like this method for adding information to a print.
Too bad I can't the the mats into my printer.

autofocus Loc: North Central Connecticut

there's always a lab that can do it for you. These were done by Artsy Couture in Maryland and cost around 12-13 bucks each. And 11x14 frames are standard offerings, and quite cost effective. Even Costco can do this, but you don't want it printed on standard photo paper, rather a heavier paper like matboard. I think they make a nice presentation, plus you avoid the cost of having to buy a separate mat which, itself, can cost 10 bucks for a precut, acid free double mat.

robertjerl Loc: Corona, California

And there are those "teachers" who have had photography as a hobby since the mid 50's. Have had well over 100,000 negatives, slides film and video and now digital images before culling. Several thousand of those were done in Vietnam during my two years there with the Army in the 60's. Been the photographer for a Geography/Anthropology Field School in SW Mexico. Taught photography full time one year at a high school while the school looked for a new photo teacher, then I went back to history/geography/government. I had my own darkroom, even had one built in a house I owned during a remodel. I did B&W, Color, Slides and prints from slides in my darkroom. I did my own custom mat board mounts and frames. And just to see if I could do it right processed some movie film. I produced a lot of my own visuals for classroom use. One school I taught at there was a small informal group of three of us who produced classroom visuals for ourselves and other teachers.
I have never sold or attempted to sell any pictures but I do donate prints to be auctioned/sold to raise money for my faith and had pictures of mine published in a newspaper and used by two professors in books they wrote over the years.

You posted your images as a "teaching moment" of how you fit 2x3 images on 11x14 paper. To myself and most other teachers that would be a "de facto" invitation for others to comment and/or join in.
If not, OK, I apologize.
Now it is your turn for your snarky "there are those that can and do, and those that can't and teach!" - which (teacher mode) is actually "Those that can, do, those that can't teach." And among teachers there are many of the best who can turn out students who exceed them in the field. In fact doing the job so well that your students can out do you is considered being a very good teacher.

Now, do we keep this up or make nice and end it?