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Mar 4, 2022 10:58:16   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
Does it make sense now why individuals need AR-15's?

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Mar 4, 2022 11:09:03   #
FrumCA
 
SteveR wrote:
Does it make sense now why individuals need AR-15's?


Or any weapon (and appropriate training) for that matter!!

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Mar 4, 2022 15:38:09   #
tramsey Loc: Texas
 
When you have dictators like Pysco Putin running Communist countries it makes a lot of sense to me.

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Mar 5, 2022 07:32:02   #
melismus Loc: Chesapeake Bay Country
 
Are you maybe talking about the Second Amendment?

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Mar 5, 2022 10:23:25   #
alberio Loc: Casa Grande AZ
 
melismus wrote:
Are you maybe talking about the Second Amendment?


I believe it's to protect the 1st.

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Mar 5, 2022 11:36:12   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
The second amendment can protect them all like in 'Red Dawn' which by the way is happening now in another country.

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Mar 5, 2022 11:46:05   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
SteveR wrote:
Does it make sense now why individuals need AR-15's?


AR 15 is a person to person weapon. The Ukrainian people need much more effective weapons against tanks, air craft, and artillary, and they need RPG.s ,missiles etc

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Mar 5, 2022 11:49:15   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
SteveR wrote:
Does it make sense now why individuals need AR-15's?


It always did to me.

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Mar 5, 2022 11:50:53   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
alberio wrote:
I believe it's to protect the 1st.


And your family...for those of us who still believe in that tradition that is.

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Mar 5, 2022 12:08:16   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
Ukrainian gun laws

Ukraine is the only country in Europe where firearms are not regulated by statute. Everything related to firearms is regulated by Order №622 of the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
Citizens are permitted to own non-fully automatic rifles and shotguns as long as they are stored properly when not in use.
Handguns are illegal except for target shooting, those who hold concealed carry permits, and handguns awarded for service.[1] Concealed carry licenses are available, but are not normally issued unless a threat to life is present and can be proven.

A license is required to own firearms, and a citizen may be issued a license if that person:
* is 25 years of age for rifle ownership, 21 years of age for smoothbore weapon ownership, 18 years of age for cold or pneumatic weapon ownership;
* has no criminal record;
* has no history of domestic violence;
* has no mental illness or history of mental illness;
* has a good reason (target shooting, hunting, collection).
Once a license is issued, all guns must be kept unloaded and in a safe.
Because of the lack of statutes regarding firearm ownership, authorities have great discretion when giving firearm licenses. The president and ministers often give guns to members of the elite, while making it hard for ordinary people to obtain them. It is estimated that more than 50,000 guns have been issued as presents from authorities.[3]
Gun owners are required by order to renew their licenses and registration of their guns every three years. Failure to comply will result in revocation of the license, as well as confiscation of guns. There is a 10-round magazine limit for rifles. [4]
Limited categories of citizens like People's Deputies of Ukraine, judges, journalists and some others may own trauma pistols that fire rubber bullets.
On February 23rd 2022, following the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine and a declaration of a state of emergency the Ukrainian parliament approved a law which gives citizens the right to carry weapons outside their homes for the purpose of self defense

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_law_in_Ukraine


Some in america would go crazy with these laws

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Mar 5, 2022 12:13:10   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
DennyT wrote:
Ukrainian gun laws

Ukraine is the only country in Europe where firearms are not regulated by statute. Everything related to firearms is regulated by Order №622 of the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
Citizens are permitted to own non-fully automatic rifles and shotguns as long as they are stored properly when not in use.
Handguns are illegal except for target shooting, those who hold concealed carry permits, and handguns awarded for service.[1] Concealed carry licenses are available, but are not normally issued unless a threat to life is present and can be proven.

A license is required to own firearms, and a citizen may be issued a license if that person:
* is 25 years of age for rifle ownership, 21 years of age for smoothbore weapon ownership, 18 years of age for cold or pneumatic weapon ownership;
* has no criminal record;
* has no history of domestic violence;
* has no mental illness or history of mental illness;
* has a good reason (target shooting, hunting, collection).
Once a license is issued, all guns must be kept unloaded and in a safe.
Because of the lack of statutes regarding firearm ownership, authorities have great discretion when giving firearm licenses. The president and ministers often give guns to members of the elite, while making it hard for ordinary people to obtain them. It is estimated that more than 50,000 guns have been issued as presents from authorities.[3]
Gun owners are required by order to renew their licenses and registration of their guns every three years. Failure to comply will result in revocation of the license, as well as confiscation of guns. There is a 10-round magazine limit for rifles. [4]
Limited categories of citizens like People's Deputies of Ukraine, judges, journalists and some others may own trauma pistols that fire rubber bullets.
On February 23rd 2022, following the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine and a declaration of a state of emergency the Ukrainian parliament approved a law which gives citizens the right to carry weapons outside their homes for the purpose of self defense

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_law_in_Ukraine


Some in america would go crazy with these laws
b u Ukrainian gun laws /u /b br br Ukraine i... (show quote)


That's why we are still free.

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Mar 5, 2022 12:58:43   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
DennyT wrote:
Ukrainian gun laws

Ukraine is the only country in Europe where firearms are not regulated by statute. Everything related to firearms is regulated by Order №622 of the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
Citizens are permitted to own non-fully automatic rifles and shotguns as long as they are stored properly when not in use.
Handguns are illegal except for target shooting, those who hold concealed carry permits, and handguns awarded for service.[1] Concealed carry licenses are available, but are not normally issued unless a threat to life is present and can be proven.

A license is required to own firearms, and a citizen may be issued a license if that person:
* is 25 years of age for rifle ownership, 21 years of age for smoothbore weapon ownership, 18 years of age for cold or pneumatic weapon ownership;
* has no criminal record;
* has no history of domestic violence;
* has no mental illness or history of mental illness;
* has a good reason (target shooting, hunting, collection).
Once a license is issued, all guns must be kept unloaded and in a safe.
Because of the lack of statutes regarding firearm ownership, authorities have great discretion when giving firearm licenses. The president and ministers often give guns to members of the elite, while making it hard for ordinary people to obtain them. It is estimated that more than 50,000 guns have been issued as presents from authorities.[3]
Gun owners are required by order to renew their licenses and registration of their guns every three years. Failure to comply will result in revocation of the license, as well as confiscation of guns. There is a 10-round magazine limit for rifles. [4]
Limited categories of citizens like People's Deputies of Ukraine, judges, journalists and some others may own trauma pistols that fire rubber bullets.
On February 23rd 2022, following the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine and a declaration of a state of emergency the Ukrainian parliament approved a law which gives citizens the right to carry weapons outside their homes for the purpose of self defense

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_law_in_Ukraine


Some in america would go crazy with these laws
b u Ukrainian gun laws /u /b br br Ukraine i... (show quote)


Some do go crazy here regarding our gun laws

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Mar 5, 2022 13:10:21   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
melismus wrote:
Are you maybe talking about the Second Amendment?


Yes. I was thinking second amendment and typed first amendment. One of the problems of growing older.

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Mar 5, 2022 18:50:07   #
Wyantry Loc: SW Colorado
 
SteveR wrote:
Does it make sense now why individuals need AR-15's?


Actually, this indicates why persons should be allowed access to M16’s M4’s, and other SELECT FIRE military-grade weapons and be a part of a true “home-guard” like the Swiss and Israeli’s!

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Mar 5, 2022 19:16:14   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
Wyantry wrote:
Actually, this indicates why persons should be allowed access to M16’s M4’s, and other SELECT FIRE military-grade weapons and be a part of a true “home-guard” like the Swiss and Israeli’s!



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