BebuLamar

My OM-2n doesn't. It works the same wither either A76 or S76 or LR44 etc..

gouldopfl

Rent one of each with the preferred lens and try them out. It will save you a lot of money if you get the wrong one.

gwilliams6

Yes that Lumix is also coming soon, worth checking out for sure for anyone considering micro 4/3rds system.
Cheers

PHRubin Loc: Nashville TN USA

It appears you have yet to decide. May I ask, what do you hope to accomplish with the purchases? I still use my T2i and find it works well in most cases. However, my 80D uses the same lenses and makes some shots possible that weren't with the T2i, and all with less hassle.

Craigdca Loc: California

IBIS and focus performance along with better low light handling are the main reasons for upgrading. I have a Tokina 80-400mm that doesn’t have IS and will try it on the new camera with an adapter.

wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado

With the new OM-1, you should be able to get a minimum of 6.5 stops IS or better. The focusing abilities should now be right up there with most FF professional end cameras. If you get the OM-1 and 12-40 f2.8 Pro II, with the Tokina 80-400 and adapter, it should give you a two lense setup with a 24mm to 800mm angle of view in 35mm terms. With the low light ability now similar to a standard FF camera's ability, I do not see how you can lose.

Craigdca Loc: California

I’m feeling the same way. 😊

PHRubin Loc: Nashville TN USA

You could save $ by staying in the Canon family. However, EF-S type lenses will lose many pixels on a full frame R mount body. EF lenses will work fine. They would also need the EF->R adapter.

On the other hand, if you want the features of a MFT (M4/3) system and the money is doable, go for it.

hrblaine

[quote=Craigdca] "I’m about to invest in my next camera setup to replace my Canon T2i. I’m not attached to the lenses which are the old 17-55 and 55/250 kit lenses that probably came with it, older 1998? Tokina EF 80-400mm and also really old Tamron EF 70-200? Lens.

So it’s a new start."

When I moved to digital, I went with Canon for some unknown reason. Up 'till then, I had never owned a Canon. I now have several bodies and plenty of glass. I'm too lazy to go count them but certainly more than a half dozen. Can't say I'll never switch but it would sure take a lot to convince me. Harry

JD750 Loc: SoCal

Im sorry I did not answer your questions earlier.

First I do not own any Canon lenses. However I own Olympus Nikon and some Hasselbald lenses, and Olympus places high on my favorite lenses list. Excellent optical characteristics. My 65 mm F2.8 Olympus Macro is sharp (given proper technique) and one of my favorites.

Given what you describe above for what you like to shoot, I believe M43 will be a good format choice.

Craigdca Loc: California

Thanks for the personal feedback, JD750. I hope my current long lens will be sharp and focus well on the new OM-1 I’ll be pre-ordering. I’m also getting the 12-40 lens so I can enjoy the bundled price. The new long lens is f/4 and no savings right now, so it can wait. I’m looking forward to an enjoyable experience with less post processing

JD750 Loc: SoCal

You're welcome.

Plan some time to setup and get to know the OM-D. Be sure to enable the Super Control Panel first off. It is very useful and strangely it is disabled by default. At least it was on both of mine.

Craigdca Loc: California

Thanks, I’ve definitely put that on my keynotes

amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA

Your T2i probably came with an 18-55mm lens, not 17-55mm. The latter is a much, much better lens. If you DO have an EF-S 17-55mm, I'd suggest you consider keeping that lens and upgrading to a newer Canon APS-C camera. There are two versions of the EF-S 55-250mm IS, both of which are pretty good (MUCH better than the EF 75-300mm III that are often bundled in kit with the Rebel series cameras). The two versions of 55-250mm appear to be optically identical, mostly just cosmetic changes to the "II" version.

No, your gear is not from 1998. In fact there were no APS-C Canon DSLRs at that time, let alone EF-S lenses. Prior to 2000 there were the Kodak/Canon collaboration cameras that were The first 100% Canon APS-C camera was their 3MP D30 introduced in 2000 and costing $3000 at the time.

Your 18MP Rebel T2i (EOS 550D, Kiss X4) was introduced in early 2010. In kit it probably came with EF-S 18-55mm IS (2009) and the first version of the EF-S 55-250mm (2007). Note that these use "micro motor" focus drive. It was a few years later that Canon revised these lenses with quieter, smoother, faster "STM" or "stepper motor" focus drive. Those would be an improvement over what you've got, without spending a lot of money. Even better, if you don't have it the EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM is widely available used now, for a good deal less than it costs new. That would be a very significant step up from any version of EF-S 18-55mm.

If you use the telephotos a lot, you might consider upgrading that Tokina and Tamron. That may be better money spent than putting a lot into the camera. Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8 IS USM II and III are excellent, but fairly large and expensive.... Might consider the 1/3 smaller and lighter f/4 version instead (either version, equally excellent optically). Canon's EF 100-400mm IS USM II is bigger but superb, while the earlier version of it (push/pull zoom) is also very good

Canon APS-C cameras you might consider:

DSLRs... Rebel T8i (24MP) or EOS 90D (32.5MP). If you prefer a more compact mirrorless, look at Canon M6 Mark II (32.5MP) or M50 Mark II (24MP). All these would allow to continue using your EF-S lenses (as well as the older Tokina and Tamron). Note that the M6 Mark II doesn't have a built in viewfinder, but an accessory one is available separately. The M50 Mk II has a built in viewfinder (as do the older M50 and M5).

Any mirrorless camera will be more expensive.

EOS R6 is among Canon's latest and greatest mirrorless with 20MP and a superb AF system. But and it's full frame, so you will need to replace the two EF-S lenses. While those can be fitted via an adapter and will work, but will vignette heavily and you'll lost a lot of the already modest resolution of the camera...There's good chance the older 3rd party lenses may not work, either. Newer ones have been able to be updated by the manufacturer to work on the R-series cameras. Overall, with R6 you should plan on a whole new set of lenses. Also, for subjects like wildlife and birds, where fairly powerful telephotos are needed, full frame cameras require bigger, heavier gear than APS-C cameras like yours. For example, where you use a 400mm now on APS-C, you will need 600mm to frame the subject in the same manner with full frame.

This would be the case, too, with the Olympus cameras. Are you aware they use Micro 4/3 sensors? These are even smaller than the APS-C. This has the advantage of allowing both the camera and lenses to be smaller and lighter... might be nice for birds and wildlife. Where you use 400mm no on APS-C, you would be able to use 300mm on an M4/3 camera. But what works for you with birds and wildlife might work against you for other subjects like landscape, astrophotography and portraiture. Larger sensors are better for wide angle subjects with tons of detail that you might want to print large, such as landscape and astrophotography.

With portraiture it's another matter... depth of field... that's a possible concern. Often with portraits... especially informal and candid ones shot on location... it's desirable to blur down backgrounds to make the subject stand out. The smaller the sensor, the more difficult it is to do this. For example, say on a full frame camera you use an 85mm f/2 lens for strong effect. To achieve the amount of background blur with your APS-C camera would require approx. an f/1.4 aperture. And in order to achieve the same blur effect with an even smaller M4/3 sensor you will need approx. f/1.0.

Note that it's the opposite with landscapes and macro photography. It can often be a struggle to get enough depth of field, so the smaller sensor might be an advantage. However, there are techniques such as focus stacking that can be used to very good effect with larger sensors. (Not the case with shallow depth of field effects for portraits... it is possible to strengthen background blur in post-processing, but takes quite a bit of work.)

Also note that the EOS M6 Mk II and M50 Mk II are quite compact cameras. Personally I would not like to use them with larger telephotos like yours. They just won't balance well with bigger lenses such as 70-200 or 100-400mm I prefer and use larger DSLRs with those bigger lenses (I shoot with a pair of 7D Mark II, but also have an M5 with it's own small kit of compact lenses).

And, it is likely that Canon will discontinue the M-series cameras in the not-too-distant future. It makes little sense for them to maintain two different mirrorless systems that are not cross-compatible in many ways. Likely Canon will offer an APS-C format R-series at some point.... Possibly even sometime this year. There's a lot of speculation about when we might see an "R7" (a pure guess as to what Canon may name it). Exactly what specification an R7 might is also wide open to speculation. It may be a mirrorless version of the EOS 7D Mark II DSLR, which sold very well and was particularly popular but rather pricey camera for sports, wildlife, bird and other action photography. Alternatively, it may be more like the M50 Mark II... a top selling, affordable mirrorless camera particularly popular for it's video/vlogging capabilities. Or perhaps it will be a blend of those characteristics... Or maybe Canon will launch two APS-C models. Hard to say. Some people think APS-C cameras will go away and everyone will buy full frame, so Canon won't ever offer an APS-C R-series. I couldn't disagree more. APS-C remain the most popular format by a large margin. It's only blogs like this, where many fairly advanced amateurs and a few pros participate, that full frame see their peak popularity. Truth is, most people really don't need full frame.

I don't use any modern Oly gear, so can't say much about the OM-D EM-1 Mk III. Besides the smaller sensor format that all Olympus use and that the OM-D EM-1 Mk III's 20MP isn't much of an increase over your current camera's 18MP, my biggest concern would be autofocus performance for demanding subjects like active wildlife and birds in flight. I really don't know how the Oly AF system holds up, compared to others. I have heard that the new (just announced, not yet in stores) Oly OM-1 has some significant autofocus improvements. On paper, in some early reviews, it sounds like it would be very good with those highly active subjects. The new OM-1 doesn't increase resolution compared to the OM-D EM-1 Mk III... both are 20MP cameras. However, the new OM-1 uses a new Back Side Illuminated (BSI) sensor that allows faster readout, higher frame rates.

Olympus shares lens mount with Panasonic to some extent. Many lenses can be use on both, but check for full compatibility of any you consider using cross-platform. This makes for a fairly comprehensive selection of roughly 40 different lenses available for Oly cameras. But that's nowhere close to the choices possible with your current camera or the other Canon DSLR offerings. The Canon R6 (and R5, R3) has an AF system that's exceptionally good for fast action shooting. To date there are 24 or 25 lenses in the RF mount, but there are many, many more EF lenses that can be adapted to work very well on the R-series cameras The EOS 90D and Rebel T8i share a 45-point AF system that's quite good for these subjects, too, though certainly not up to the same standards as the R6. These DSLRs can fully use all EF and EF-S lenses ever made, which is literally more than a million by Canon alone over the last 30 years. There are also a great many third party lenses in EF mount, but there can be problems with older third party lenses on newer cameras.

Finally, there also are cost considerations...

- Canon M50 Mark II (24MP APS-C body)......... $600 + $40 (Viltrox EF adapter)
- Canon T8i (24MP APS-C body only)............... $750
- Canon M6 Mark II (32.5MP APS-C body)........ $850 + $40 (EF adapter) + $$200 (EVF-DC2 viewfinder)
- Canon 90D (32.5MP APS-C body only)......... $1200
Note: with all the above you may upgrade lenses, but can use what you've got now, making gradual improvements.
- Olympus OM-D EM-1 Mk III (20MP M4/3)..... $1500 + full kit of lenses up to 300mm
- Canon R6 (20MP full frame body)................ $2500 + $200 adapter and/or lenses up to 600mm
- Olympus OM-1 (20MP M/43 body)............... $2200 + full kit of lenses up to 300mm.

You'll have to decide for yourself.... whether to stick with Canon or go to Olympus, and whether to stick with DSLRs or go to mirrorless. Look closely at the systems as a whole and what you really need. Changes in brand and/or format will be more expensive than upgrading within the system you already use.

EDIT: Dpreview and others on YouTube have some early reviews and discussion of the upcoming OM-1 that might be helpful.

wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado

Do more than put it in your keynotes. JD750 is correct about its usage. I do not know about others, but I find it's usage amounts to 95% or greater. It is about 5 to 8 seconds max to change settings with the SCP. It will take you much longer going through the scroll menu. My SCP comes up with a double click of the "OK" button on the back with my E-M1 mkII. The new scroll menu on the OM-1 is now broken down to color coded sections for easier navigation. But I seriously doubt it is faster than the SCP. When I initially got my E-M5, I knew nothing about the SCP. It was a struggle for the first month using the scroll menu. I wondered if I should have chosen something else. Then I learned about the Super Control Panel. What a difference! There is a reason that they put the word "Super" to it. Plus they improved the menu system again with the OM-1. Now if you select a grayed out item, which one cannot use, and press the "OK" button, it will tell you why it will not let you use it. This will allow you to change a setting to use the function. I really could used that on my E-M1 mkII photo shoot one time.

Again, if I hadn't purchased my E-M1 mkIII so recently, I would have pre-ordered my OM-1 plus lens by now. I am going to have some envy of you and what you are able to do now. My new E-M1 mkIII is a great camera. But for a little more, I could have had even a lot better.